Dirthy Filthy Hun Scumbag Vermin (deceased), liquidated & Green abondons ship

[glasgowdon]

Nobody blew the whistle. Nobody asked tough questions. All of those fucking morons are equally complicit.

[BobbyBiscuit]

Massive Rangers Summer Festival

 

Mates and I were discussing having a major cultural event in Scotland akin to T in the Park, in response to the demands to put the loyal orders off the road etc, an expression of Britishness or an all-round party for our culture. Some of the figures (most of which would be have been re-invested back into cultural activities) were immense.

 

If you think about an event for Rangers. It would be amazing to be at, and the flags, banners and sheer brotherhood would be an amazing boost to our culture and the "holiday of a lifetime". It could also in one fell swoop, wipe out Rangers debt and put us on a sound financial footing.

 

A camping festival on a large area of open land with stages and marquees etc. Rangers-themed bar owners could run the licencing arrangements and also make money. True-Blue artists could play their music from the stages, and guest speakers could fill marquees, plays could be put on etc. Our culture has plenty of musicians from flute and pipe bands to crooners singing Penny Arcade and old Rangers songs.

 

People might stump up a lump sum for such a holiday with entertainment provided. A long weekend at T in the Park sees people part with hundreds just to take in the atmosphere and enjoy the music.

 

If you could mobilise our people (I am sure exiles would come back for it) then I think you could have a Manchester + number of people to save our club. If it became annual we could have one of the richest clubs in the world!!

 

You could have family areas, people could bring caravans and mobile homes as well as massive tent city. Catering would pay a lot of the costs because they would make a great amount of money and Rangers merchandise would also raise a pretty penny.

 

£200 for a weekend camping if we had 250,000 is £50m. Costs of provision are only a couple of million. Add the revenues from catering and licencing, merchandising and that pays for the facilities.

 

We could be talking £50m to buy the club out initially and if it became an annual event £50m for players every year. There is no need to say what that could do for our long term ambitions.

 

It would encourage artists and be a shot in the arm for publicity. We could potentially police a lot of this ourselves with stewarding. Rangers-minded businesses would make money, and we would not be asking people to part with money for nothing.

 

It's just a thought but it is something I think we could make happen, and a model aready exists. Imagine a quarter of a million doing the bouncy or singing Penny Arcade, with flags waving?

 

What do people think? Could the annual Rangers festival event be the thing that capitalises on the extent of the love of our support and put Rangers on an entirely different level?"

 

 

 

That's what i think.

[maverick sheep]

 

That's what i think.

 

the only thing funnier than them suggesting that would be them actually attempting it!

[bilbobaggins]

Truly, spectacularly bat shit mental.

[Tyrant]

Sweet Jaby Besus! I can't see them convincing 250 folk that this is a good idea let alone 250,000.

[Madbadteacher]

I also suspect their costing doesna include the police (force nae the 80's band), who would probably refuse to allow such a thing anyway?

 

Hell it'd be like a glorified orange walk all weekend long (despite them not being bigots or proddies of course!).

[jmo]

I also suspect their costing doesna include the police (force nae the 80's band), who would probably refuse to allow such a thing anyway?

 

Hell it'd be like a glorified orange walk all weekend long (despite them not being bigots or proddies of course!).

 

No it's OK, they plan to police it themselves 

[maverick sheep]

Ticketus contract with Rangers 'is being terminated'

 

Administrators at Rangers Football Club have told Ticketus they are terminating its contract over future season ticket sales, it has been claimed.

 

The claim was made by Charles Green, who is leading the consortium which is on track to take over the club.

 

London-based Ticketus are owed £26.7m from a deal struck with chairman Craig Whyte last May for the future sale of three years' worth of season tickets.

 

Mr Whyte gave personal guarantees to Ticketus over capital issued to Ibrox.

 

Earlier this month, Ticketus formally launched legal action against him over money it was owed.

 

The finance firm purchased tickets from the club at the time of the businessman's takeover last May.

 

Mr Green made the revelation about the Ticketus contract in a statement which followed several meetings with supporters' representatives.

 

Price freeze

"My initial thoughts prior to these meetings was that season tickets prices should be increased as they had not been raised in the last three years," he said.

 

"However, taking on board the fans' concerns, I can confirm that when my consortium completes the purchase of Rangers and takes over the running of the club, season ticket prices will be frozen for next season.

 

"The club's administrators have informed me they have written to Ticketus to terminate the agreement that is currently in place with the club and supporters can now take heart from the fact that season ticket sales will be as normal."

 

He added: "Once we are in a position to issue season ticket renewals, and that will be as soon as possible, I would urge all fans to continue showing the tremendous support they have given to the club."

 

Mr Green added that in view of the public announcement this week that the Plus Market was to close, the consortium intended to make arrangements to list Rangers Football Club on an alternative market "at the earliest opportunity".

 

The English venture capitalist is leading a "worldwide consortium" which has agreed an £8.5m deal to buy Rangers.

 

He has said there were 20 individuals in his consortium from Asia, the Middle East, Far East and the UK.

[tom_widdows]

well thats Duff & co earned themselves another couple of million fighting that one in the courts at the expense of the Govan Loyal

[Kowalski]

Doing the rounds...

 

The SPL deadline for clubs to provide information on improper registration of players was six weeks ago today but the league has yet to report findings to clubs, while the chief executive rallies support to allow a Newco access to the league.

 

Time has expired on this policy of non-disclosure until it’s too late.

 

If the SPL chief executive ever tells us that Rangers fielded improperly registered players between 2000 and 2012, resulting in years of 3-0 defeats being awarded, there will be an enormous amount of anger, not only among supporters, but in boardrooms across the country, as they ponder money which was rightfully theirs but which went to Rangers – perhaps including Rangers prize money for finishing second this season.

 

We have made an attempt to quantify this money. Some of the losses were easier to calculate than others. For example, it was easy to calculate that when Rangers won the title in 2009 with improperly registered players, earning automatic qualification to the Champions League group stage, they denied Celtic £15m European earnings, plus £340k SPL prize money. Other losses are less clear, specifically when a club was denied a place in a qualifying round for the Champions League or Uefa Cup, which they may or may not have progressed from.

 

We have established three figures for each club in the SPL during the season just finished, to cover the period from 2000 to 2012:

 

Minimum loss:

The absolute minimum each club was denied from European and SPL prize money as a result of Rangers finishing above them with ineligible players.

 

Weighted loss:

The figure based on Scottish clubs gaining entry to Champions League/Europa League (Uefa Cup) group stages from 20% of their qualifying campaigns (which is slightly less than trend).

 

Maximum loss:

The maximum a club could have achieved if it qualified for the European group stage it was denied entry to.

 

Out estimates take no account of the subsequent effect money has on future years. For example, If Celtic earned an additional £15m from entering the Champions League group stage in 2009-10 their league challenge for that season would have been £15m stronger, and Rangers £15m weaker, potentially resulting in consequences in future years.

 

This multiplier effect would have benefited Celtic but it would be likely to have a greater effect on other clubs, some of whom would be denied the enormous percentage increase in budget automatic qualification to European group stages would have brought.

 

Hearts finished immediately behind Celtic and Rangers more often than any other club over the period and suffer the greatest potential losses, even more so than Celtic. Hibernian, Aberdeen, Dundee United and Motherwell also suffered significant losses.

 

Several clubs got nowhere near European football over the period, and some of the 11 spent only a few years in the SPL but each club lost over £1m.

 

Figures for each club are:

 

Hearts

Maximum: £72.3m

Weighted: £16.3m

Minimum: £6.2m

 

Celtic

Maximum: £46.7m

Weighted: £21.9m

Minimum: £17.4m

 

Hibernian

Maximum: £34.8m

Weighted: £8.4m

Minimum: £3.6m

 

Aberdeen

Maximum: £21.1m

Weighted: £5.5m

Minimum: £2.7m

 

Dundee United

Maximum: £20.8m

Weighted: £5.2m

Minimum: £2.4m

 

Motherwell

Maximum: £16.7m

Weighted: £4.4m

Minimum: £2.1m

 

Kilmarnock

Maximum: £5.1m

Weighted: £1.9m

Minimum: £1.3m

 

Dunfermline

Maximum: £3.4m

Weighted: £1.8m

Minimum: £1.5m

 

Inverness

Maximum: £1.3m

Weighted: £1.3m

Minimum: £1.3m

 

St Johnstone

Maximum: £1.1m

Weighted: £1.1m

Minimum: £1.1m

 

St Mirren

Maximum: £1.1m

Weighted: £1.1m

Minimum: £1.1m

 

In the event Rangers fielded ineligible players during the period under consideration, which everyone apart from Neil Doncaster knows, and even he will be unable to deny next week, we know the following:

 

Rangers received a minimum of £40.9m which should have gone to the 11 other clubs, assuming each club lost all their European group stage qualifying campaigns. This calculation does not include earnings from clubs now in the Scottish Football League, such as Hamilton Accies or Dundee.

 

If Scottish clubs progressed to the group stages of European competition on only 20% of their qualifying campaigns the loss would be £69.0m.

 

The figure for total potential losses if clubs successfully progressed to every European group stage is, as the figure for 100% failure, more illustrative than likely, but the maximum cost to the 11 SPL clubs is £224.6m.

 

Results will be changed, trophies can and will, be re-awarded, but these are the harsh financial consequences clubs, their lawyers and supporters, will consider when the facts are presented to them next week. The SPL executive has had six weeks to consider if there is sufficient evidence to commence disciplinary proceedings; they have failed to do so. They have failed you and every other football supporter in the land, while shamelessly pursuing an accommodation for the errant club BEFORE REVEALING THE FACTS TO YOU.

 

Time will be up soon, Mr Doncaster. You’ve had your chance but you have convinced no one. The people who really matter in this entire debacle are those who buy tickets for Celtic Park, Pittodrie, Easter Road, Tynecastle, Tannadice, Fir Park and the rest, they will hear the truth and read these figures. You have failed them.

[glasgowdon]

Where is the financial data coming from?

[baggy89]

Wonder how the suffragettes are getting on.

[TENEMENTFUNSTER]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18137913

 

It continues . . . . .

[Kowalski]

I doubt a verbal agreement would have much legality.  And Dave King is one dodgy cunt, still facing lots of charges in South Africa.  Good to see there's still more to the story though! 

[baggy89]

Would think it would depend on who witnessed it. Although I'm sure it's the next in a series of get outs and Green will fuck off now using this as an excuse and they'll be back to more deadlines, the only important one being insolvency deadline. BYE BYE.

[Tyrant]

Cheers for clearing that up Jager. 

[Jute]

Neil Doncaster on BBC saying he sees no difference between Newco route and CVA and does not see why the Huns should be punished for Newco route. Looks like SPL are lubbing up to take Huns in with no punishment.

[tlg1903]

Neil Doncaster on BBC saying he sees no difference between Newco route and CVA and does not see why the Huns should be punished for Newco route. Looks like SPL are lubbing up to take Huns in with no punishment.

 

Aye saw that.  Neil Doncaster is a cunt.  end of

[maverick sheep]

Guardian hack Lawrence Donegan on twitter:

 

BBC doc on Rangers in 2 days.hear it has chapter&verse on EBTs- names, contracts, amounts. apparently, scale of ebt (ab)use is "eye-popping"

 

also told BBC had access to "treasure trove" of documents - far greater than anything seen by SPL inquiry in Rangers.

[dave_min]

Cheers for clearing that up Jager.

 

It wouldn't matter either way. Whyte doesn't honour written contracts, so I'd doubt that verbal ones would be treated any differently

[Kowalski]

Guardian hack Lawrence Donegan on twitter:

 

BBC doc on Rangers in 2 days.hear it has chapter&verse on EBTs- names, contracts, amounts. apparently, scale of ebt (ab)use is "eye-popping"

 

also told BBC had access to "treasure trove" of documents - far greater than anything seen by SPL inquiry in Rangers.

 

This is going to be great!  Loads of popcorn required! 

[Madbadteacher]

Doncaster is basically paving the way to let them off!

 

[tlg1903]

Guardian hack Lawrence Donegan on twitter:

 

BBC doc on Rangers in 2 days.hear it has chapter&verse on EBTs- names, contracts, amounts. apparently, scale of ebt (ab)use is "eye-popping"

 

also told BBC had access to "treasure trove" of documents - far greater than anything seen by SPL inquiry in Rangers.

 

No porn needed to jack off that night then

[Tyrant]

Is it tonight that this documentary is? I think it's going to sicken me more than anything because we're going to hear and see the full extent of what they're going to get away scott free with. 

 

 

[BobbyBiscuit]

Is it tonight that this documentary is? I think it's going to sicken me more than anything because we're going to hear and see the full extent of what they're going to get away scott free with. 

 

Tomorrow night