Dirthy Filthy Hun Scumbag Vermin (deceased), liquidated & Green abondons ship

[BobbyBiscuit]

 

This is the bit I'd be most amused by, it's something Rangers fans seem to bring up and every chance!

 

Linfield = huns. If they were going to lose their title to anyone, I'm sure they're glad it's them.

[Tyrant]

Linfield = huns. If they were going to lose their title to anyone, I'm sure they're glad it's them.

 

 

Correct. Now we just need to get Linfield stripped a few titles.

[glasgow sheep]

The SPL were investigating the EBTs not the SFA so that article doesn't make any sense.

[Mentorred]

Heard a Sevco Fan on the Sportsound podcast saying that he was happy cause Sevco could make history by being the only team to win all 4 divisions. Does he realize they have never won the SPL?

[Nellie The Don]

Heard a Sevco Fan on the Sportsound podcast saying that he was happy cause Sevco could make history by being the only team to win all 4 divisions. Does he realize they have never won the SPL?

 

The nick Sevco are in, I reckon Stranraer have a better chance in any case.

[maverick sheep]

TWO members of the three-man Scottish Football Association panel which imposed a 12-month registration embargo on Rangers will play no further part in the case.

 

Lord Carloway and Craig Graham, the chairman of Spartans, will be replaced if or when the SFA's Appellate Tribunal reconvenes to consider the transfer ban again. The panel was ruled to have acted outwith its powers by Lord Glennie when Rangers challenged the SFA in the Court of Session.

 

Herald Sport understands that Lord Carloway was unhappy that his verdict was contradicted by another judge and wrote to the SFA to inform them he would no longer be available for any future cases. Graham cannot consider the case again because of the possibility that suspending or expelling the oldco Rangers' SFA membership (which the newco club seeks to take over) could create a vacant league place for which his own club, Spartans, could seek to apply. Graham removed himself rather than face a conflict of interest although he will remain available to the SFA for future cases.

 

Only former Partick Thistle chairman Allan Cowan remains of the original panel.

 

That means two new individuals from the dozens who comprise the SFA's Judicial Panel will have to be drafted in to study the entire case along with Cowan and deliver another verdict.

 

Glennie concluded that only the specific punishments laid down in the SFA's rulebook for the charges Rangers faced – namely a fine, expulsion from the Scottish Cup or suspension or termination of membership – could be applied to the club.

 

The extent of the SFA sanctions imposed on Rangers for charges of bringing the game into disrepute has become a central point in the ongoing talks regarding the transfer of the oldco club's licence and SFA membership.

 

During three days of talks this week the newco representatives have so far failed to accept the imposition of the 12-month registration ban – which could still be applied if the club accepted it, despite Glennie's ruling – as a condition of their SFA membership being ratified. The newco club runs the risk of the Appellate Tribunal reconvening and imposing an even tougher penalty, such as withholding their ability to play at all.

 

The SFA could still go ahead and grant Rangers newco a licence and membership – if the governing body receives the answers it has sought on the identity of those involved in chief executive Charles Green's consortium – which would allow the season to begin with the newco playing at Brechin City in the Ramsdens Cup next weekend. But unless the newco representatives change their attitude to accepting the 12-month embargo, and remove the need for the Appellate Tribunal to sit again at all, the season seems certain to start without a resolution to the issue of SFA sanctions still hanging over Ibrox.

[glasgow sheep]

Sounds like Lord Carloway is a bit of dick and gone into a huff because someone disagreed with him

[glasgow sheep]

Has this been mentioned, kinda hoped we wouldn't see them on tv at all this season

 

The Scottish Football League has approached broadcasters with a package to show up to 25 live Rangers matches in Division Three next season.

However, any deal cannot be finalised until the Scottish FA grants membership to the new club.

The SFL's media representative IMG, is inviting bids from interested parties, with a closing date of Monday.

The proposed deal includes the opportunity to broadcast all 18 of Rangers' away league matches.

Members of the Rangers board held talks with the SFA on Tuesday, but there is debate over what punishments they will accept in return for membership.

It is understood the SFA wants the newco club to accept the 12-month transfer embargo handed out to the old company for bringing the game into disrepute.

The governing body also wants guarantees from Charles Green's consortium that all football debts will be cleared.

The SFL TV deal on offer is subject to certain criteria, including fixture clashes, scheduling clashes and policing but with the start of the new season less than three weeks away, they want all parties to move quickly.

And BBC Scotland has learned that several parties have already declared an interest.

As the SFL looks for a broadcast partner, its counterpart at the Scottish Premier League continues negotiations over its own television and radio deals.

SPL chief executive Neil Doncaster has spent the last 48 hours in talks with Sky and ESPN discussing what they are willing to pay for a top league without Rangers.

[Madbadteacher]

SPL chief executive Neil Doncaster has spent the last 48 hours in talks with Sky and ESPN discussing what they are willing to pay for a top league without Rangers.

 

Surely this is WRONG! You can't sort out a TV deal on the basis of who may/may not be in the league. Why doesn't he just go all the way and, instead of actually playing competitive matches, get SKY to tell us the results then make the teams play them out.

 

What total and utter shite

[dave_min]

Sounds like Lord Carloway is a bit of dick and gone into a huff because someone disagreed with him

 

Can you blame him?

 

Not really worth your time giving your judgement on something if it's gonna be ignored.

[Kowalski]

From Chris McLaughlin on Twitter:

 

SFA say Sevco accept transfer embargo as primary condition of membership.

[Madbadteacher]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18929983

 

The embargo would begin on 1 September and end on 31 August next year.

 

That would mean Rangers could sign players in the current transfer window but not in January or next summer

:hammer: :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

What a load of shite!

 

So they can buy their way out of every division now? Embargo needs to be from now, DO NOT let them sign ANYONE!

 

 

 

[glasgow sheep]

How many clubs get to negotiate their punishments?

[maverick sheep]

Green denying signing an agreement to accept embargo.

 

Not sure a signing ban is a meaningful punishment anyway. Are div 3 teams not still allowed to field a load of 'trialists'? Could see them getting round it easily one way or the other.

 

But if they are going to have the ban it's as well being inclusive of next summer rather than this anyway. Less chance of them being able to put a squad together this summer that's capable of back-to-back promotions.

 

Stripping the titles is the big one for me. It's only punishment if it isn't worth it in the end, and the proceeds of crime are forfeited.

[maverick sheep]

What the actual fuck?? How are a club who don't exist able to make money from selling players?

 

Southampton and Rangers have agreed a fee for the transfer of midfielder Steven Davis to the club promoted to the top flight in England.

 

The Northern Ireland international had agreed to join Saints earlier this month after rejecting a move to the new Rangers created by Sevco Scotland.

 

Rangers blocked the player's international clearance.

 

But the Glasgow club have stated: "The two clubs have agreed an undisclosed fee for the transfer of the player."

[glasgowdon]

Green denying signing an agreement to accept embargo.

 

Not sure a signing ban is a meaningful punishment anyway. Are div 3 teams not still allowed to field a load of 'trialists'? Could see them getting round it easily one way or the other.

 

But if they are going to have the ban it's as well being inclusive of next summer rather than this anyway. Less chance of them being able to put a squad together this summer that's capable of back-to-back promotions.

 

Stripping the titles is the big one for me. It's only punishment if it isn't worth it in the end, and the proceeds of crime are forfeited.

 

Interesting, surely this doesn't apply to "professional" clubs though?

[Nellie The Don]

What the actual fuck?? How are a club who don't exist able to make money from selling players?

 

I would assume that is 'Rangers' as in oldco/d&p, and the money will end up eith the creditors.  If penny one of it sees its way to Sevco, it would certainly establish a legal argument for HMRC et al to persue them for their £130M.

[One Bobby Clark]

I would assume that is 'Rangers' as in oldco/d&p, and the money will end up eith the creditors.  If penny one of it sees its way to Sevco, it would certainly establish a legal argument for HMRC et al to persue them for their £130M.

 

But is the argument not going to be that Green "bought" the assets of TCFKAR and is now free to dispose of those assets as he sees fit?

 

Of course, if he starts raking in loads of cash, then BDO as liquidators, might have more of a case for putting the boot into D&P for undervaluing the sale.

[tom_widdows]

A stand-off over media rights and a possible stripping of titles threatens to scupper Rangers' hopes of Scottish Football Association membership.

 

The SFA said on Friday that the new Rangers agreed to a transfer embargo in return for a license to play.

 

BBC Scotland understands two obstacles remain before a deal can be agreed.

 

Rangers want the Scottish Premier League to drop their investigation into dual contracts and the SPL want the SFL to hand over Rangers' media rights.

 

There must be a five-way agreement between the SFA, SPL, Scottish Football League, old Rangers and new Rangers before any deal is ratified.

 

The SPL want an independent commission to rule on whether Rangers broke the rules during previous campaigns by paying players with so called side contracts.

 

They are due to hand over their findings to that commission on 10 August.

 

But Rangers fear an independent commission could strip them of titles and believe they have already been sufficiently punished.

 

The Rangers manager Ally McCoist has already said that he will never accept the stripping of titles.

 

It is understood the club will not sign up to the agreement with that threat hanging over them.

 

However, the SPL are digging their heels in over media rights.

 

It is believed broadcasters are not keen to sign up to an SPL deal without having the rights for Rangers in the Third Division.

 

For that reason, the SPL want the SFL to hand over the rights for a price.

 

They say that without the broadcasting deal in place, they cannot pay the SFL their annual £2m settlement fee that was agreed back in 1999 when the top clubs split from the league to form the SPL.

 

But Rangers and the SFL want to hold onto the rights and all parties are currently at a stand-off.

 

Talks will continue next week to try to find a solution but several parties involved believe a deal is a long way off.

 

Rangers are due to play their first match against Brechin in the Ramsdens Cup next weekend but that match cannot go ahead without SFA membership.

 

[Madbadteacher]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18941515

 

I'm pretty certain if a club isn't  registered with the SFA that, in addition to not getting to play in any sanctioned competitions that

a) they canna sign/register players

b) they canna benefit from transfer fees   

 

Still, this is good for a laugh 

[Jute]

How can the SPL claim media rights on a club that are not members of their league?

[Nellie The Don]

First of all the SPL need to pull their necks in over TV rights. 'Demanding' ownership of TV rights from another league? Get squarely tae fuck.

 

Secondly McCoist et al need to realise they have no leverage whatsoever to accept or reject anything.  The SPL can initiate an independent panel, and Rangers can get stripped of any titles they see fit. If off the back of it Sevco decide both literally and figuratively they don't want to play any more then no biggie. Brechin v Spartans or Cove would be a perfectly fine opening fixture.

[maverick sheep]

According to the sunday post, Scotland's finances will be £40m per year better off without "rangers" in the top-flight.

[Madbadteacher]

NHS and police savings I assume Mav?

[Madbadteacher]

Ibrox sources say Rangers manager Ally McCoist could quit in protest if the club was stripped of Scottish Premier League titles for allegedly not properly registering all payments to players.

 

So. Fucking. What.

 

Dryereyes Sally, ye're not that impotant in the scheme of things