Managers in England

[Stewart]

Mr Wikipedia has been given the dunt.

 

 

[Madbadteacher]

Y'know, I could, y'know see that, y'know, coming.

 

Y'know.

[maverick sheep]

 

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Profile-sacked-Bristol-Rovers-manager-Mark-McGhee/story-17609632-detail/story.html

 

"The former professional football [/size]player, who enjoyed an illustrious career before moving into management"

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[Kowalski]

Well you can't argue with that statement.

[maverick sheep]

Well you can't argue with that statement.

 

or even cut and paste it properly...

[Stewart]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20679610

 

 

Henning Berg given the dunt.

[manc_don]

And O'Driscoll from Forest!  The world is mad, 1 point off the play-off's and daft arab owners decide to give him the dunt. Well played.

 

 

"He can count himself unlucky to have lost his job with the team just one point away from the top six," Forest chairman Fawaz Al Hasawi said

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Fud. Especially after putting 4 past Dirty leeds.

[Jute]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20679610

 

 

Henning Berg given the dunt.

 

Frees up Eric Black for the Dons job in the summer.

[manc_don]

I'd love it, but worried about ruining another legend

[Madbadteacher]

Still, Berg got longer than Clough at Leeds!

[TENEMENTFUNSTER]

Blackburn deserve all that befalls them.

[Kowalski]

Alex McLeish has been appointed the new manager of Nottingham Forest.

 

The 53-year-old former Aston Villa, Birmingham and Scotland boss replaces Sean O'Driscoll, who was sacked on 26 December after five months in charge.

 

"I believe he's the man who can help us fulfil our ambition of making it to the Premier League," said Forest chairman Fawaz Al Hasawi.

 

McLeish said: "The fact a club of Forest's magnitude has offered me a job excites me greatly."

[baggy89]

Presumably we now know where Ryan Fraser will be going.

[dave_min]

There's no chance of Fraser going to Forest.

 

Zero.

 

[bloo_toon_red]

Does anyone follow Simon Kuper on Twitter?

 

Something he mentioned as part of his Soccernomics book I think, relating to football managers who were top footballers actually making very poor managers (with rare exceptions like Guardiola & Cruyff), but football club chairmen having continuous mental blocks when it comes to this.

 

Alex McLeish, in the bigger scheme of things, actually did quite well as manager of Rangers winning the same amount of trophies as Sir Martin of Celtic.  But that shouldn't count for much in an uncompetitive league.  He's done pretty much pap-all else, I don't really understand what he has done in a managerial context (especially in England) to merit being considered a good manager.  He got Hibs and Birmingham promoted, but Hibs were always going to be too big for SFL1 and Birmingham had to go back up with a big EPL parachute payment.

 

Henning Berg got the Blackburn job not because he was a good coach, but because he was a Blackburn legend.

 

Who have been the best managers in England over the past 20 years?  Alex Ferguson, Arsene Wenger, David Moyes, Rafa Benitez? Roy Hodgson? Harry Redknapp?  None of whom had glittering playing careers.  At another end of the scale you have managers who'll do a specific task (ie win promotion), like Neil Warnock, Mick McCarthy, Steve Bruce all having won promotions with 2 or more clubs, the latter two admittedly had good playing careers but maybe the moral to the tale is that good players are better suited to this level.  Cardiff almost dead certs to go up, but Bruce's Hull are a good bet, and I wouldn't at all write off Warnock's Leeds joining them.

 

Blackburn have put themselves in a very bad position.  By staying loyal to Kean for so long, the appointment of someone such as Berg to appease the fans was one that probably had to be made for their (Venky's) own sakes.  Blackburn now really need a Steve Bruce, a Neil Warnock or a Mick McCarthy.  They wont win you trophies or get you in to Europe, but they'll do a grand job of getting you out of that division.

[glasgow sheep]

Wolves have sacked their manager. Now normally i couldnae gie a fuck but will this make it more or less likely that that rat Griffiths is at Hibs come Scottish Cup day?

[maverick sheep]

i'd tentatively suggest less. The new boss will hopefully look at his good scoring record thus far and think he needs to keep a guy like that around for a bit to get a proper look at him. then if he wants to get him out the door from feb onwards he can loan him in england (i think?).

[TENEMENTFUNSTER]

Unlikely to make much difference.

[manc_don]

surprised wolves gave him as much time as they did. Seemed destined to fail.

[Tyrant]

surprised wolves gave him as much time as they did. Seemed destined to fail.

 

 

At no point was it a good appointment.

[tlg1903]

They must be really regretting sacking Mcarthy

[tom_widdows]

Bristol City sack McInnes.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21001780

[Kowalski]

Can't be arsed with a new thread but I bet Man City and Chelsea are delighted to hear that Guardiola is off to Bayern Munich 

[bloo_toon_red]

Great move, really honestly a great move.  In my opinion the only places he could've gone to without stepping down were Bayern & Manchester Utd.  Bayern are a force that need to be up there with the Barcas, the Real Madrids and the Manchester Utds.

 

Will he bring the tiki-taka to Bayern?  He's already got a pretty good squad, but it would need pretty major surgery to get the personnel to play that style.

 

[maverick sheep]

agree btr, although i wouldn't be surprised if he ends up at man city in a few years - assuming they keep developing their facilities and don't start trying to cash in on the players.

 

 

but bayern definitely is the most logical club. will be fascinating to see how he does.