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Sunday 1st December 2024 - kick-off 3pm

Scottish Premiership - Hearts v Aberdeen

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Posted
11 minutes ago, Jute said:

Official announcement from St Johnstone. Had been coming. 

Thought he was a strange appointment from them in the first place.

Guess they must have seen him as a safe pair of hands at the time.

Posted
1 hour ago, BigAl said:

Thought he was a strange appointment from them in the first place.

Guess they must have seen him as a safe pair of hands at the time.

Yep, he was very much the type of manager you'd expect from the old board. 

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, manc_don said:

Return of Neil Lennon to the spfl then given he’s out of work? Wonder which manager PLZ soccer and the bbc demand they go for 😂

I think we should actually be worried as Peter Leven is one of the favourites according to the St Johnstone ITKers.

Rhys McCabe also fancied for it.

I'd actually like to see Barry Robson get it. 

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Posted
4 hours ago, Panda said:

I think we should actually be worried as Peter Leven is one of the favourites according to the St Johnstone ITKers.

Rhys McCabe also fancied for it.

I'd actually like to see Barry Robson get it. 

St Johnstone fans I work with both mentioned Leven. Other name they mentioned was Ian Murray. 

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Said this before, leven would be smart to stay for at least a season and learn under JT. Going to more than double down on that statement now.

JT appears to be something special but we have still to get drama, adversity, a bad loss, injuries etc, and how does JT handle that. Leven will learn a ton over the course of a season.

If he’s smart, leven stays at least a season then gets a championship job, raith, Morton or the likes. To jump into a premiership relegation battle as your first head position would be very difficult.

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24 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said:

Said this before, leven would be smart to stay for at least a season and learn under JT. Going to more than double down on that statement now.

JT appears to be something special but we have still to get drama, adversity, a bad loss, injuries etc, and how does JT handle that. Leven will learn a ton over the course of a season.

If he’s smart, leven stays at least a season then gets a championship job, raith, Morton or the likes. To jump into a premiership relegation battle as your first head position would be very difficult.

Agree with this 100%.

Continue to learn his trade before jumping straight into the fire. I thought Leven seemed a very level headed individual during his time in temporary charge last season and am sure he has his head screwed on the right way.

Posted

Aye, was pretty much why I’d discounted it. Maybe naively but I don’t think he’ll be interested in that job. Hes got much to learn, from a foreign manager too, which doesn’t come up very often. 

Posted
19 hours ago, Reekie_Red said:

Good riddance. Craig Levein deploys the most negative defensive tactics I've seen since Alex "Cunt" Miller. Did it with Scotland, Hearts and Utd. 

Aye hate watching, let alone playing against, one of his teams.  Best thing about his binning is he goes back to the radio.  I've often found him quite amusing when he's been on off the ball and sportsound, not scared to laugh at himself either. 

Posted
2 hours ago, Jute said:

Naismith gone.Hopefully they done hire anyone competent. 

Would quite like them to give it to Alex Neil, just so we can see what we supposedly missed out on.

Posted
2 hours ago, Panda said:

Would quite like them to give it to Alex Neil, just so we can see what we supposedly missed out on.

No thanks as he really got Sunderland playing some good stuff. Would rather the avoided anyone with a decent track record.

Posted
4 hours ago, Jute said:

No thanks as he really got Sunderland playing some good stuff. Would rather the avoided anyone with a decent track record.

The more I read up on Neil the more I was against him becoming Aberdeen manager.

Got Norwich promoted and was heralded as a great up and coming manager, but since then he's had more failures than success.

Norwich: After relegation, was sacked after seven wins in 24 and Norwich eighth in Championship.

Preston: 16th in Championship.

Sunderland: Wasn't there long enough, but were second I think when he took over and he got them promoted from League One through a play-off. Wasn't the miracle some made it out to be.

Stoke: Finished 16th, then was sacked the following season when they were 20th.

 

That doesn't make him a terrible manager - the English Championship is a tough division. There's worse names Hearts could appoint. But I'd have been underwhelmed had he came here.

Would be genuinely intrigued how he would do at Hearts. 

Posted

Really curious to the direction hearts go. There’s Neil, mcinnes, Lennon, Tony mowbray, Paul lambert, and, pretty please, Craig levein. I suppose maybe callum Davidson, Scott brown, and Rhys McCabe should be considered too?
Then you look at rangers and Celtic who have gone the foreign route, as have we and with a very positive start. And, Neil warnock is available!

i don’t think hearts have planned for a new manager, and I doubt they’ll rush into it. I’d be surprised if they have anyone in place for our game. Popcorn at the ready, intrigued as to who comes in.

Posted
44 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said:

Really curious to the direction hearts go. There’s Neil, mcinnes, Lennon, Tony mowbray, Paul lambert, and, pretty please, Craig levein. I suppose maybe callum Davidson, Scott brown, and Rhys McCabe should be considered too?

Lennon, Mowbray and Brown? I will pay your mortgage for a year if Hearts appoint any of them.

 

Posted
8 hours ago, Panda said:

Lennon, Mowbray and Brown? I will pay your mortgage for a year if Hearts appoint any of them.

 

Why did you single out those three? Genuinely curious, is there something between Hearts and former/recent tims? Interested, because I thought that Lambert and Davidson were equally horrific shouts, given one hasn't managed in years and the other was fired from St Johnstone and doing worse than Brown in the Championship. McCabe being bottom of the Championship with Airdrie is also probably a poor shout, despite his decent team of last season.

Posted
1 hour ago, RicoS321 said:

Why did you single out those three? Genuinely curious, is there something between Hearts and former/recent tims? Interested, because I thought that Lambert and Davidson were equally horrific shouts, 

They are equally horrific shouts, but Lennon, Mowbray and Brown are not only ex-Celtic but also ex-Hibs.

Mowbray is unrealistic anyway because of his health issues and he doesn't want to manage in Scotland, but I can't see Hearts appointing a former Hibs manager anyway.

As for Lennon and Brown, they are both despised in Gorgie. It'd be like Aberdeen going for Durrant or Hateley. Not a hope Hearts ever consider them, and I doubt either man will be putting their name forward either.

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15 minutes ago, Panda said:

They are equally horrific shouts, but Lennon, Mowbray and Brown are not only ex-Celtic but also ex-Hibs.

Mowbray is unrealistic anyway because of his health issues and he doesn't want to manage in Scotland, but I can't see Hearts appointing a former Hibs manager anyway.

As for Lennon and Brown, they are both despised in Gorgie. It'd be like Aberdeen going for Durrant or Hateley. Not a hope Hearts ever consider them, and I doubt either man will be putting their name forward either.

I'm not quite sure how I managed to completely miss the Hibs connection with all those three. Impressive.

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Posted

I think we all agree, and kinda why I listed many of them, what a pile of shite they are. Most mentioned the last few years when we were looking for a manager, and I agree hearts wouldn’t consider a few of them. No real candidates stand out domestically, or being Scottish, I suppose Tony Doc could be the up and comer, and would Del go to his 4th premiership team, I’m not so sure. I’d say foreign is the route to go, but as I said, we’d done more than enough research on JT, could see this taking a while.

Posted

Brown is one of the favourites for the St J job. Don't think he would ever go to Hearts anyway.

What about McGhee? There's no team I would love more to see balancing on rafts on a lake, all new signings being a minimum 6'3" in stature but no need for any level of skill, and seeing the end product sink marvellously into the Championship 

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McInnes isn't a good fit for Hearts.

Hearts are a basket case, McInnes doesn't do basket case clubs as demonstrated by his refusal to go to Der Hun or Sunderland.

McInnes likes total control and lets be honest, that's not something he is going to get at Hearts.

McInnes likes a good relationship with his chairman. He had that at us with Milne. He currently has it @ Killie.

For the above reasons, in my opinion, McInnes to Hearts isn't a starter

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