Azteca1903 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Posted November 22, 2011 Scottish Cup fourth-round draw Airdrie United v Dundee United Arbroath v Rangers Cowdenbeath v Hibernian Culter or Partick Thistle v Queen of the South Dundee v Kilmarnock Falkirk v East Fife Hearts v Auchinleck Talbot Inverness Caledonian Thistle v Dunfermline Athletic Livingston v Ayr United or Montrose Motherwell v Elgin City or Queen's Park Peterhead v Celtic Raith Rovers v Morton Ross County v Stenhousemuir St Mirren v Hamilton Academical St Johnstone v Brechin City Stranraer or Forfar Athletic v Aberdeen Ties to be played 7/8 January Not the most exiting of draw. Talbot at Tyncastle gives a bit of novelty value, St J v Brechin produced a couple of cracking games last season and potentially tricky games for United and Killie but otherwise fairly uninspiring. Definitely, the first game was one of the best cup ties I've seen in a long time. Was hoping for a few all-SPL ties to clear the way for us a bit - and I do appreciate the futility of this wish given that Stranraer/Forfar will probably pump us. Quote
Tyrant Posted November 23, 2011 Report Posted November 23, 2011 Gutted that that youtube vid doesn't work. Quote
glasgow sheep Posted January 5, 2012 Report Posted January 5, 2012 Full set of fixtures for this weekend. Best potential for a shock? Perhaps the Blue Brazil vs HIVs before the stock car racing starts? Cowdenbeath riding high in the 2nd. Hibs fucking gash? Dundee beating Killie? Can't see many other potential surprises, suppose Ayr beating Livi might count: Saturday, 7 January 2012 Dundee v Kilmarnock, R4, 12:30 Airdrie Utd v Dundee Utd, R4, 15:00 Cowdenbeath v Hibernian, R4, 15:00 Falkirk v East Fife, R4, 15:00 Forfar v Aberdeen, R4, 15:00 Hearts v Auchinleck Talbot, R4, 15:00 Inverness CT v Dunfermline, R4, 15:00 Livingston v Ayr, R4, 15:00 Motherwell v Queen's Park, R4, 15:00 Partick Thistle v Queen of South, R4, 15:00 Raith Rovers v Morton, R4, 15:00 Ross County v Stenhousemuir, R4, 15:00 St Johnstone v Brechin, R4, 15:00 St Mirren v Hamilton, R4, 15:00 Sunday, 8 January 2012 Arbroath v Rangers, R4, 12:45 Peterhead v Celtic, R4, 15:00 Quote
glasgow sheep Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 what the fuck now? The Scottish Cup Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas and World Cup and Champions League-winning manager Marcello Lippi will join Jim Mullen, Chief Operating Officer at William Hill Online, to conduct the William Hill Scottish Cup fifth round draw on Monday, 9 Janaury at Hampden Park. The draw will take place at 2.30pm and will be broadcast live on Sky Sports News Quote
glasgowdon Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 what the fuck now? Mental. Decent profile though. Quote
dave_min Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 Mental. Decent profile though. I'm lead to believe it's because they are doing some talk at Largs next week. Quote
manc_don Posted January 7, 2012 Author Report Posted January 7, 2012 Dundee come back to draw with Killie. Quote
scotfree Posted January 7, 2012 Report Posted January 7, 2012 Hertz miss there 4th Penalty in a month! Quote
tom_widdows Posted January 8, 2012 Report Posted January 8, 2012 Todays Crowds Hearts vs Auchinleck 8,895 (49% Capacity) Motherwell vs Queens Park 4,286 (31% Capacity) Forfar vs Aberdeen 3,747 (81% Capacity) Dundee vs Kilmarnock 3,446 (29% Capacity) St Mirren vs Hamilton 3,091 (39% Capacity) Cowdenbeath vs Hibernian 2,670 (51% Capacity) Falkirk vs East Fife 2,475 (30% Capacity) St Johnstone vs Brechin 2,467 (23% Capacity) Partick vs Queen of the south 2,454 (23% Capacity) Airdrie Utd vs Dundee Utd 2,434 (24% Capacity) Inverness caley vs Dunfermline 1,601 (21% Capacity) Raith Rovers vs Morton 1,581 (19% Capacity) Ross County vs Stenhousemuir 1,421 (24% Capacity) Livingston vs Ayr United 932 ( 9% Capacity) Not a single game in this round will make it into 5 figures Quote
BigAl Posted January 8, 2012 Report Posted January 8, 2012 Todays Crowds Hearts vs Auchinleck 8,895 (49% Capacity) Motherwell vs Queens Park 4,286 (31% Capacity) Forfar vs Aberdeen 3,747 (81% Capacity) Dundee vs Kilmarnock 3,446 (29% Capacity) St Mirren vs Hamilton 3,091 (39% Capacity) Cowdenbeath vs Hibernian 2,670 (51% Capacity) Falkirk vs East Fife 2,475 (30% Capacity) St Johnstone vs Brechin 2,467 (23% Capacity) Partick vs Queen of the south 2,454 (23% Capacity) Airdrie Utd vs Dundee Utd 2,434 (24% Capacity) Inverness caley vs Dunfermline 1,601 (21% Capacity) Raith Rovers vs Morton 1,581 (19% Capacity) Ross County vs Stenhousemuir 1,421 (24% Capacity) Livingston vs Ayr United 932 ( 9% Capacity) Not a single game in this round will make it into 5 figures Fucking hell Tom, some pretty damning statistics there. The two Edinburgh clubs in particular crowds are very poor. Hearts only would have had about 6,500 if you take away the Auchinleck support, and the HIVS more than a 1,000 less than at our game for what was a very short trip for them. Quote
manc_don Posted January 8, 2012 Author Report Posted January 8, 2012 It looked like there were works / sections of the ground closed yesterday at the HIVs game, but couldn't really tell. Still, pretty depressing reading! The crowd at Dens was pathetic, even if it was on TV. Quote
scotfree Posted January 8, 2012 Report Posted January 8, 2012 Todays Crowds Hearts vs Auchinleck 8,895 (49% Capacity) Motherwell vs Queens Park 4,286 (31% Capacity) Forfar vs Aberdeen 3,747 (81% Capacity) Dundee vs Kilmarnock 3,446 (29% Capacity) St Mirren vs Hamilton 3,091 (39% Capacity) Cowdenbeath vs Hibernian 2,670 (51% Capacity) Falkirk vs East Fife 2,475 (30% Capacity) St Johnstone vs Brechin 2,467 (23% Capacity) Partick vs Queen of the south 2,454 (23% Capacity) Airdrie Utd vs Dundee Utd 2,434 (24% Capacity) Inverness caley vs Dunfermline 1,601 (21% Capacity) Raith Rovers vs Morton 1,581 (19% Capacity) Ross County vs Stenhousemuir 1,421 (24% Capacity) Livingston vs Ayr United 932 ( 9% Capacity) Not a single game in this round will make it into 5 figures Thats Fucking Shocking!! Quote
dave_min Posted January 8, 2012 Report Posted January 8, 2012 Other than Hearts and Motherwell, can any of the ground even hold 10,000? Nae great crowds, but a bit harsh criticising people for not making the 3 hour journey for a midday kickoff for a game on council telly. Did we manage to sell out our end btw? Quote
manc_don Posted January 8, 2012 Author Report Posted January 8, 2012 Nae great crowds, but a bit harsh criticising people for not making the 3 hour journey for a midday kickoff for a game on council telly. I was referring more to the yokel fans! Killie, I can sort of understand and their support is generally pish anyway. Quote
tom_widdows Posted January 8, 2012 Report Posted January 8, 2012 Other than Hearts and Motherwell, can any of the ground even hold 10,000? Nae great crowds, but a bit harsh criticising people for not making the 3 hour journey for a midday kickoff for a game on council telly. Did we manage to sell out our end btw? 10000+ stadia Hearts Motherwell Dundee St Johnstone Partick Airdrie Livingston Ill admit not making the 5 figures target is affected by the draw but when only 2 games make it to more than 50% capacity including an all spl tie then more questions need to be asked As for our end the seating was sold out and the terracing was almost full but not so much that you felt claustraphobic. Probably could have squeezed in another 100-200 dons fans. Just a pity we arent seen as enough of a draw for the local glory hunters for forfar to sell out their end. The home terracing behind the goal was a depressing sight Quote
tlg1903 Posted January 8, 2012 Report Posted January 8, 2012 Cant say i'm surprised by this. The festive period is over and folk are counting the cost, scottish football is a very poor product at the moment Quote
Andrew Posted January 8, 2012 Report Posted January 8, 2012 Cant say i'm surprised by this. The festive period is over and folk are counting the cost, scottish football is a very poor product at the moment How many people go for the product though? I only really care how good Aberdeen are in relation to the rest of the league. Quote
tom_widdows Posted January 8, 2012 Report Posted January 8, 2012 The Weekends Crowds Hearts vs Auchinleck 8,895 (49% Capacity) Arbroath vs Rangers 5,895 (91% Capacity) Peterhead vs Celtic 4,505 (113% Capacity apparently?) Motherwell vs Queens Park 4,286 (31% Capacity) Forfar vs Aberdeen 3,747 (81% Capacity) Dundee vs Kilmarnock 3,446 (29% Capacity) St Mirren vs Hamilton 3,091 (39% Capacity) Cowdenbeath vs Hibernian 2,670 (51% Capacity) Falkirk vs East Fife 2,475 (30% Capacity) St Johnstone vs Brechin 2,467 (23% Capacity) Partick vs Queen of the south 2,454 (23% Capacity) Airdrie Utd vs Dundee Utd 2,434 (24% Capacity) Inverness caley vs Dunfermline 1,601 (21% Capacity) Raith Rovers vs Morton 1,581 (19% Capacity) Ross County vs Stenhousemuir 1,421 (24% Capacity) Livingston vs Ayr United 932 ( 9% Capacity) If someone said at the start of the tournament that the 3rd rounds biggest crowd would be at a game featuring a Junior team would anyone have taken them seriously? Quote
dave_min Posted January 8, 2012 Report Posted January 8, 2012 Didn't Peterhead add some sort of temporary stand at one of the ends to get more fans in? Quote
glasgow sheep Posted January 8, 2012 Report Posted January 8, 2012 The Weekends Crowds Hearts vs Auchinleck 8,895 (49% Capacity) Arbroath vs Rangers 5,895 (91% Capacity) Peterhead vs Celtic 4,505 (113% Capacity apparently?) Motherwell vs Queens Park 4,286 (31% Capacity) Forfar vs Aberdeen 3,747 (81% Capacity) Dundee vs Kilmarnock 3,446 (29% Capacity) St Mirren vs Hamilton 3,091 (39% Capacity) Cowdenbeath vs Hibernian 2,670 (51% Capacity) Falkirk vs East Fife 2,475 (30% Capacity) St Johnstone vs Brechin 2,467 (23% Capacity) Partick vs Queen of the south 2,454 (23% Capacity) Airdrie Utd vs Dundee Utd 2,434 (24% Capacity) Inverness caley vs Dunfermline 1,601 (21% Capacity) Raith Rovers vs Morton 1,581 (19% Capacity) Ross County vs Stenhousemuir 1,421 (24% Capacity) Livingston vs Ayr United 932 ( 9% Capacity) If someone said at the start of the tournament that the 3rd rounds biggest crowd would be at a game featuring a Junior team would anyone have taken them seriously? Well if they said it was going to be at Tyncastle then yes. I can't imagine that at any time in the last 10years that there would have been a significant difference in numbers. Largely an insipid draw. Hibs, Aberdeen, United, Rantic all away from home at lower league, and small grounds (Broadwood excepted). ST not valid in the main and in a lot of ties bigger side at home against shite opposition so not huge incentive to get down to the ground. In any case a fairer judgement would be to compare the crowds to average home crowds Hearts vs Auchinleck 8,895 (66% average crowd) Arbroath vs Rangers 5,895 (777% average crowd) Peterhead vs Celtic 4,505 (882% average crowd) Motherwell vs Queens Park 4,286 (74% average crowd) Forfar vs Aberdeen 3,747 (689% average crowd) Dundee vs Kilmarnock 3,446 (76% average crowd)) St Mirren vs Hamilton 3,091 (64% average crowd) Cowdenbeath vs Hibernian 2,670 (714% average crowd) Falkirk vs East Fife 2,475 (73% average crowd) St Johnstone vs Brechin 2,467 (67% average crowd) Partick vs Queen of the south 2,454 (98% average crowd) Airdrie Utd vs Dundee Utd 2,434 (277% average crowd) Inverness caley vs Dunfermline 1,601 (37% average crowd) Raith Rovers vs Morton 1,581 (76% average crowd) Ross County vs Stenhousemuir 1,421 (56% average crowd) Livingston vs Ayr United 932 ( 56% average crowd) So from that lot you could say average crowds are shite this year but that's hardly new or surprising. Only poorish crowds I would say are Livi and County - County always seem to have poor cup crowds but as they are doing so well you would have thought they would have got a few more folk in but how many Stenny fans will have travelled? - and the ICT crowd but again who wants to go see ICT v Dunfermline for one of 5 meetings this season. Dundee game would have had another 2-3000 if it wasn't on TV while if hibs had been any good recently they would have taken a few more but still reasonable attendances. Quote
tlg1903 Posted January 8, 2012 Report Posted January 8, 2012 How many people go for the product though? I only really care how good Aberdeen are in relation to the rest of the league. You would be surprised Quote
Tyrant Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 I was hearing Hibs fans being congratulated for bothering to "make the trip" given their poor form. Trip? What trip? It's fucking 20 minutes away! :hammer: :hammer: Quote
BigAl Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 I was hearing Hibs fans being congratulated for bothering to "make the trip" given their poor form. Trip? What trip? It's fucking 20 minutes away! :hammer: :hammer: Indeed Heard them going on and on about that on Radio Scotland Quote
tom_widdows Posted January 9, 2012 Report Posted January 9, 2012 Draw at 230pm who do you fancy Aberdeen Rangers Celtic Hearts Hibernian Falkirk Motherwell St Johnstone Queen of the South Ayr United Morton Ross County Dundee United St Mirren or Hamilton Inverness Caley or Dunfermline Dundee or Kilmarnock Am away trip to Morton or Ross County would be nice I think Quote
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