Dons v Helen

[RDU_64]

Sad to see folk saying they won't be back to pittodrie. We're playing better, attacking football and bossing games more than we have for years and despite immense frustration coming away from the last two games I've been entertained. The team is barely recognisable from last year never mind the dross from the McGhee era. Looking forward to seeing mcginn coming back into the side and playing just behind Vernon or Fallon giving them more support and threat through the middle. Hughes was trying to do that yesterday but wasn't fully fit and doesn't quite have the legs for that roll.

433 formation is allowing us to dominate the middle of the park but we need more support in the middle up front.  Only complaint with the manager yesterday was putting Clark on instead of Smith but when Smith did finally appear he looked promising.

 

The break has probably come at a good time for us and hopefully have McGinn, Jack, Fallon and Robertson back for ict which will hopefully see us building on some very good but ultimately frustrating performances.

 

Completely agree. Find that attitude a bit ridiculous and pathetic to be honest.

[El Padre™]

It's just fucking shite. We can play like Brazil all we fucking like but putting the ball in the net is what this is all about. No more of my money will go across the turnstile until we start scoring goals. I'm really, really fed up with AFC.

 

And therein lies the problem with our fair-fucking-weather support. Absolutely piss poor attitude and I don't think your money will be missed.

[RDU_64]

And therein lies the problem with our fair-fucking-weather support. Absolutely piss poor attitude and I don't think your money will be missed.

 

Completely agree. +1.

[mizer]

 

433 formation

 

 

Are you prescribing yourself methadone?????????

 

And therein lies the problem with our fair-fucking-weather support. Absolutely piss poor attitude and I don't think your money will be missed.

 

Attendance : 9288

 

It's well gone and hence why we are in a fucking financial clusterfuck.

 

[Goldie03]

I haven't seen the dons at all this season but I know why we are not scoring goals at home.

 

What the fuck is with the white shorts 

 

 

[bloo_toon_red]

And therein lies the problem with our fair-fucking-weather support. Absolutely piss poor attitude and I don't think your money will be missed.

Fairweather!

Meanwhile back in the real world, with far more important things to be thinking about than football I'm not really minded to take much notice of such sweeping statements other than to say that it's disappointed me that you would disrespect the thinking behind it. As a football fan i'm pretty passionate as you well know and the glaring inaccuracy of your comment is as over-reactionary as my own post-match state of mind, which seems to have completely gone over your head. Now you've made it personal, you've also made it divisive.

 

I cannot be criticized for being hacked off that my team isn't scoring. That's just completely fucked up. Yes, there are things to be positive about but acceptance of our impotence is not in my nature at all.

 

My final word on it - and it really is nae other cunt's business, but seeing as the issue has been brought up - with a child due in 3wks, one salary coming in and limited free time on weekends, no reasonably minded person would consider that my not being entertained and choosing to step back for a while is representative of a

piss-poor attitude

but feel free to stereotype all you like. No apology needed, your assumed embarrassment is enough. 

Stand free

[TENEMENTFUNSTER]

Go, don't go. But to make the decision to step back when their is apparent cause for some (however little) optimism given how bereft of positivity the club has been in the past, seems a bit of an over reaction.

 

Quite how our striking situation can be left as it is is, like most things, beyond me. But, we're "going to hammer someone soon".

 

It isn't really good enough, but it's definitely better.

[BobbyBiscuit]

The system doesn't work, and won't work, with Vernon as the focal point. Getting the ball 40 yards from goal, and then laying it off to the wings means he then has to get ahead of the play again and he doesn't have the legs for it. 

[Jute]

The system doesn't work, and won't work, with Vernon as the focal point. Getting the ball 40 yards from goal, and then laying it off to the wings means he then has to get ahead of the play again and he doesn't have the legs for it. 

 

Not going to work with Fallon either as he is even slower than Vernon.

[El Padre™]

Fairweather!

Meanwhile back in the real world, with far more important things to be thinking about than football I'm not really minded to take much notice of such sweeping statements other than to say that it's disappointed me that you would disrespect the thinking behind it. As a football fan i'm pretty passionate as you well know and the glaring inaccuracy of your comment is as over-reactionary as my own post-match state of mind, which seems to have completely gone over your head. Now you've made it personal, you've also made it divisive.

 

I cannot be criticized for being hacked off that my team isn't scoring. That's just completely fucked up. Yes, there are things to be positive about but acceptance of our impotence is not in my nature at all.

 

My final word on it - and it really is nae other cunt's business, but seeing as the issue has been brought up - with a child due in 3wks, one salary coming in and limited free time on weekends, no reasonably minded person would consider that my not being entertained and choosing to step back for a while is representative of a  but feel free to stereotype all you like. No apology needed, your assumed embarrassment is enough. 

Stand free

 

Embarrassment? Hardly. You made a statement that sums up the attitude of many in Aberdeen and I'm telling you I thinks it's shite. I don't know your personal situation right now (congrats though) but you know fine well that attitude riles me majorly. This isn't a time for any fan to be humming and hawing about entertainment. We're on the verge of something good at the moment and patience is required from everyone while we get there. Throwing around the sentiment of "if X doesn't happen then I won't do Y and Z" is entirely unhelpful and just absolute bullshit. If you can't afford it don't come, but don't make the team your excuse for not attending.

 

Hebrew the shorts are totally shit, I'm surprised you didn't get in about that earlier!

[Edinburghdon]

Are you prescribing yourself methadone?????????

 

we've been clearly setting up in a 4-3-3 all season, you'd know that if you went...

 

yes its pish were not scoring but at the same time were absolutely battering teams, as soon as we score someone is going to get a doing.

 

its pathetic that people are complaining about our performances when we are dominating games, attacking football is what people have wanted for years... its only a matter of time until we start scoring.

[El Padre™]

we've been clearly setting up in a 4-3-3 all season, you'd know that if you went...

 

yes its pish were not scoring but at the same time were absolutely battering teams, as soon as we score someone is going to get a doing.

 

its pathetic that people are complaining about our performances when we are dominating games, attacking football is what people have wanted for years... its only a matter of time until we start scoring.

 

100 percent correct.

[TENEMENTFUNSTER]

Not entirely.

 

We have all known we need a striker before the season started. The way we shape up does not suit Vernon at all let alone Fallon.

 

We didn't score enough last season, we look like having the same problem this term the difference being our play merits more goals, which, if anything, is more annoying.

[mizer]

we've been clearly setting up in a 4-3-3 all season, you'd know that if you went..

 

Is Vernon playing up front with Patrick Swayze? As I have not seen anyone up front with him, nver mind two other strikers. Are you still in a huff as I forgot I was meant to head out with you last night?

[Reekie_Red]

yes its pish were not scoring but at the same time were absolutely battering teams, as soon as we score someone is going to get a doing.

 

It's not as if we're not hitting the target either! I've only been watching the (pretty friggin awesome) Youtube highlights, but can see we are hitting the target frequently every game bar the opener against Celtic. Whether someone starts hitting the back of the net, or we come up against a keeper in poor form ... I get the real feeling that someone is gonna get an absolute pasting from us soon.

 

Infact, a quick look at our home form:

 

Aberdeen vs Helen

12shots vs 3 shots

3 on target vs 1 on target

 

Aberdeen vs Hearts

7shots vs 3 shots

2 on target vs 1 on target

 

Aberdeen 0-0 Ross County

11shots vs 4shots

5 on target vs 1 on target

[Madbadteacher]

White shorts?

Wasn't it Eddie Turnbull that introduced Red ones so we'd look more like Liverpool (allegedly)?

And did't we have a strip with white shorts in the late 80s or early 90s?

Doesn't seem to have done Man U any harm?

 

Yes I'd rether we wore "scarlet" tops, shorts and socks, and if it wansa for the money involved I'd want a plain, unpatterned, unsponsored shirt as well, but I don't really believe it makes a bit of difference to our lack of hitting the net at Pittodrie!

[CtS]

We had white shorts for a season in the mid to late nineties.

[dave_min]

We had white shorts for a season in the mid to late nineties.

 

Correct.

 

[RDU_64]

Is Vernon playing up front with Patrick Swayze? As I have not seen anyone up front with him, nver mind two other strikers. Are you still in a huff as I forgot I was meant to head out with you last night?

 

I'll only say for the previous two games (Hearts and St. Mirren) because they have been the only two I have managed this season so far. Aberdeen have clearly been set up in the following way

 

V Hearts -

 

 

                                                    Langfield

 

                Anderson        Considine        Reynolds        Naysmith

 

                                          Rae    Osbourne    Jack

 

                                              Fraser            Hayes

                                                        Vernon

 

 

 

 

v St Mirren

 

 

                                            Langfield

 

                    Magennis        Anderson      Reynolds      Considine

 

                                  Rae    Osbourne    Hughes

 

                                      Fraser            Hayes

                                                Vernon

 

Against St Mirren especially, Hughes should probably be occupying an advanced role ahead of Rae and Osbourne.

 

It is clearly a 4-3-3 and anyone who disagrees has clearly not been to a game this season and/or is deluded.

[Jute]

I'll only say for the previous two games (Hearts and St. Mirren) because they have been the only two I have managed this season so far. Aberdeen have clearly been set up in the following way

 

V Hearts -

 

 

                                                    Langfield

 

                Anderson        Considine        Reynolds        Naysmith

 

                                          Rae    Osbourne    Jack

 

                                              Fraser            Hayes

                                                        Vernon

 

 

 

 

v St Mirren

 

 

                                            Langfield

 

                    Magennis        Anderson      Reynolds      Considine

 

                                  Rae    Osbourne    Hughes

 

                                      Fraser            Hayes

                                                Vernon

 

Against St Mirren especially, Hughes should probably be occupying an advanced role ahead of Rae and Osbourne.

 

It is clearly a 4-3-3 and anyone who disagrees has clearly not been to a game this season and/or is deluded.

 

See only one striker in the teams you list so looks like 4-5-1 to me.

[El Padre™]

433 and 451 are basically the same formation. Not worth debating at all!

[RDU_64]

See only one striker in the teams you list so looks like 4-5-1 to me.

 

How can it be 4-5-1 when Hayes and Fraser are pushing up along with Vernon? I would give you a 4-2-3-1 formation possibly but it's just not 4-5-1!

[bloo_toon_red]

Go, don't go. But to make the decision to step back when their is apparent cause for some (however little) optimism given how bereft of positivity the club has been in the past, seems a bit of an over reaction.

 

I can accept that taken in isolation, it appears to be a small over-reaction, I alluded as much to it in my response to Padre to be fair.

 

you know fine well that attitude riles me majorly

 

Padre, you know that I think you're a top bloke but on this occasion you've made this personal and divisive so I wont let it go by.

 

Have you ever been somewhere and thought, "this is fucking shite, I've paid £x for the privelige, I'd much rather be somewhere else?"  If you haven't, you're either a liar or have lived a very sheltered life.  So this is where I'm coming from, I'm choosing to pay £23 to go to a game, see no goals, see no victory, see no satisfaction (and it is for me to decide what satisfies me, not anyone else) at the expense of spending time with my daughter, or doing something more productive than "please" myself at a football match.  This is the "attitude" of so many guys who have decided to do other things with their Saturday afternoons over the past 15 years of underachievement at AFC.  Not ridiculous and not pathetic.  Not even close. Not even on the same planet.  When you (and that is the collective "you" before anyone turns into a whiny bitch) grow up, you see football, especially shite football, isn't that important in the grand scale of life.

 

Look at the crowd on Saturday.  Is every fan who decided not to attend in the wrong in your opinion?  Or is it just me who's wrong, because I've chosen to post it here?  You've used the sentiment of luck when referring to AFC's profligacy in front of goal.  I'll tell you what's lucky, or maybe more accurate, miraculous, is that 9,200 fans are still loyal enough to turn up at a club that has let them down time and time again over a prolonged period of time.  I have always said that I do not criticise anyone who chooses not to go to a game for whatever reason, why waste the energy?  So, what makes you the authority to suggest that the club wont miss my money?  By that logic, if the club doesn't miss my money, then they wont miss the money of the other 11,000 empty seats every week.  In which case, the irony is, you are "riled", or maybe more pertinently given your posts on the subject over the past few years, you've a chip on your shoulder about something that, in your opinion, the club isn't bothered about.  So why get your knickers in a twist about it?  Why waste your breath?  What is it that riles you so much?  Completely contradictory I'd say, or is there something else?

 

Throwing around the sentiment of "if X doesn't happen then I won't do Y and Z" is entirely unhelpful and just absolute bullshit.

 

Being apathetic about results in a performance related industry definitely isn't helpful either.  Which is it to be?

 

its pathetic that people are complaining about our performances when we are dominating games, attacking football is what people have wanted for years...

 

In which case the mantra "be careful what you wish for" has never been so relevant.  It's up to us all as individuals what constitutes entertainment or maybe more accurately, satisfaction and for me this is results. Results come first, performances second.

 

As I've said, I am pleased that we've played well, and there are things to be positive about, but I'd rather we were scoring goals and getting results. I have no problem whatsoever with anyone disagreeing with me if they want to debate it fairly and respectfully rather than judgementally and divisively.  We can't all be the same otherwise it'd be pretty boring, but we all want the same for AFC and that is for us to be successful.  If they can be successful without my £23 for a few weeks, nobody will be happier about it than me.

 

Stand Free.

[Goldie03]

I only saw the white shorts for the first time on Sunday night watching the highlights and they look dreadful - it must be affecting the players 

 

Anyhow I am venturing to Pittodrie for my first game of the season in a couple of weeks and I fully expect silky soccer to be on display (maybe not goals tho just yet) 

 

 

 

 

[Kowalski]

See only one striker in the teams you list so looks like 4-5-1 to me.

 

But there's only 3 midfielders shown in RDU's line ups!?