HaarDon Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 It's all good. I thought v Israel it was very close to a head kick from certain angles, though not after VAR.(obviously the cheating Israeli tried his luck) Last night looked like it could've hit Dykes' arm though would be unfair to not give that either. The very fact that VAR was used for both goals surely makes them contentious. Anyway, 6 points. Happy days It would be crazy after all the bad decisions and bad luck we've had over the decades for a Scottish supporter to want fair ruling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 2 hours ago, scotfree said: I got up early to watch this match. Was fucked off with it all and turned the tv over with 5 mins of the game left... I was not expecting that score when I saw it later on. Could you possibly do this for the Moldova game also if we're struggling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 2 hours ago, HaarDon said: It's all good. I thought v Israel it was very close to a head kick from certain angles, though not after VAR.(obviously the cheating Israeli tried his luck) Last night looked like it could've hit Dykes' arm though would be unfair to not give that either. The very fact that VAR was used for both goals surely makes them contentious. Anyway, 6 points. Happy days It would be crazy after all the bad decisions and bad luck we've had over the decades for a Scottish supporter to want fair ruling. I can't think of a single bad decision we've had over the years that's made a difference. It pales into insignificance when you count the number of times we've played terribly, put out a poor team, chose the wrong tactics etc. That we expect absolute perfection from refs is bizarre. It's entirely designed by TV viewers for TV, with supporters who actually attend games kept in the dark. Perfect for the greatest league in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaarDon Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, RicoS321 said: I can't think of a single bad decision we've had over the years that's made a difference. It pales into insignificance when you count the number of times we've played terribly, put out a poor team, chose the wrong tactics etc. That we expect absolute perfection from refs is bizarre. It's entirely designed by TV viewers for TV, with supporters who actually attend games kept in the dark. Perfect for the greatest league in the world. Great for guys like me then at the other side of the world And the foul given to Italy in euro 2008 qualifiers for a start which stopped us from going through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_widdows Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Losing to Georgia & Ukraine stopped Scotland from going through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 5 hours ago, tom_widdows said: Losing to Georgia & Ukraine stopped Scotland from going through. Bastard that’s another memory I had spent years trying to bury with drink brought back to the surface. Thanks a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 3 hours ago, tom_widdows said: Losing to Georgia & Ukraine stopped Scotland from going through. That's the thing, if you don't screw up one of those then the Italy game doesn't matter (wasn't our goal offside too?). The only time I can think of a decision that was ridiculously contentious was the Henry handball against Ireland that sent them out in a playoff. But those clear cut bad decisions - rather than subjective calls - are really not that common. It's best just to let them go and deal with any missed red cards etc afterwards like we do currently. Even the lauded goal line technology gets used about once a season. It's just not required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlg1903 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 We were poor the first half but I have to say I thought the faroes looked a pretty decent team. Clarke was right to mention the Danes took the same amount of time to score against them as we did, they're no mugs. Got the fear about Moldova but at least it won't be roasting hot. Even if we win we still have a long way to go. Play offs will be tough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 The good thing about Moldova is that it's the first of the two fixtures. The double header does seem to throw up a few difficulties for us. A big first fixture and we struggle to match that in the second, as if we've already done the hard work. A poor first fixture and we are a bit shaky in the second. It must be a difficult psychology for the manager, it's not really like anything else in football. A European game is two legs against the same team, which gives it the air of a single game. It's almost like we have to treat each game in a double header as a single fixture, where it only counts if you meet your objectives in both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotfree Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 11 hours ago, BigAl said: Could you possibly do this for the Moldova game also if we're struggling I was thinking that myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaarDon Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 I think we will beat Moldova just by 1 goal again and Israel will be beaten by Austria who's pride has taken a huge knock as they were expected to be at least runners up. When you look at where we are atm from the group teams at the start, we have done ourselves proud. It's just a shame we have donkeys for strikers. I'd still have liked to see Nisbet get way more chances like a start for the Faroes game. That was the perfect opportunity to give him confidence and see what he could do for at least 70 mins. Clarke knew the faroes were well equipped defensively and was going for an aerial threat coming from dykes (which he doest really have in terms of headed goals for us). We really shouldn't fuck this up but if we get to the play off's, I can't see us getting through 2 matches whether we end up seeded or not. We just havnt the one talisman who can score goals like most other teams have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sancho_panza Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 3 hours ago, HaarDon said: We really shouldn't fuck this up but if we get to the play off's, I can't see us getting through 2 matches whether we end up seeded or not. I don't think anyone will be putting money on us to do it, but if we get a lucky draw who knows. The likes of Italy, Spain and Portugal could end up in the playoffs but it's probably more likely it's something like this: Semi-final: Austria, Czech Republic, Norway, Romania, Ukraine or Wales Final: Croatia, Poland, Serbia, Sweden or Switzerland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wokinginashearerwonderland Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 6 hours ago, sancho_panza said: I don't think anyone will be putting money on us to do it, but if we get a lucky draw who knows. The likes of Italy, Spain and Portugal could end up in the playoffs but it's probably more likely it's something like this: Semi-final: Austria, Czech Republic, Norway, Romania, Ukraine or Wales Final: Croatia, Poland, Serbia, Sweden or Switzerland Fair comment. In Clarke’s defence, these last few games we look like we have turned a corner and made a bit of progress. Unfortunately I don’t think we are in the class of a Sweden, Norway or Czech Republic therefore we will probably end up being beaten in the playoffs. I would still question some of Clarke’s tactics at times. The other night we could all see Fraser was making nothing of it and it was crying out for Patterson yet he waited until about 10 minutes from the end before making the change. Also bringing on McGregor for Hendry, just to drop McTominay into defence looked a pointless sub when we were desperate for a goal and taking off Billy Gilmour when we needed to keep the ball at the end was a strange decision. From the outside, he certainly seems to have fostered a good bond between the players though and no one can deny they are willing to fight for him. Dykes is also an upgrade on a number of those who were given a chance before him (McBurnie, Brophy, Shankland, Burke, Fletcher). He may not be world class but he is a threat and must be a nightmare to play against. Arguably the best goal scoring threat since Kenny Miller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA-Don Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Thought quite a bit about that game the last 24 hours. Reminded me a lot how the Dons have played over the last few of years. Plenty of possession but all in front of an organized defensive opponent, and no central attacking creativity or threat. Like you hear me cry too often, seriously lacking a number 10. Very disappointed in Christie, he can play that role very well but he didn't get much of the ball. Get the #10 on the ball centrally and you attack with Robertson Dykes and Fraser alongside and ahead of you. It was all too slow and predictable. Haven't seen much of Turnbull, is he that type of player? Or is he yet another box to box midfielder. Who else can bring central attacking creativity? Would rather see Fraser there than wide, James Forrest?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaarDon Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 On 15/10/2021 at 05:42, LA-Don said: Thought quite a bit about that game the last 24 hours. Reminded me a lot how the Dons have played over the last few of years. Plenty of possession but all in front of an organized defensive opponent, and no central attacking creativity or threat. Like you hear me cry too often, seriously lacking a number 10. Very disappointed in Christie, he can play that role very well but he didn't get much of the ball. Get the #10 on the ball centrally and you attack with Robertson Dykes and Fraser alongside and ahead of you. It was all too slow and predictable. Haven't seen much of Turnbull, is he that type of player? Or is he yet another box to box midfielder. Who else can bring central attacking creativity? Would rather see Fraser there than wide, James Forrest?? Tony watt apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 U21 squad announced for qualifiers Kazakhstan and Belgium. Both games being played at Tannadice on 12th and 16th November. Scotland Under-21s Squad Brian Kinnear West Ham United PS Archie Mair Lincoln City PS * Cieran Slicker Manchester City Harrison Ashby West Ham United Tom Clayton Liverpool Josh Doig Hibernian Aaron Hickey Bologna Lewis Mayo Partick Thistle PS ** Adam Montgomery Celtic PS Stephen Welsh Celtic Elliot Anderson Newcastle United Scott Banks Crystal Palace PS Jack Burroughs Ross County *** Lewis Fiorini Lincoln City **** Scott High Huddersfield Town Stephen Kelly Rangers PS Marc Leonard Brighton & Hove Albion PS Ben Williamson Livingston ** Kai Kennedy Dunfermline Athletic PS ** Stuart McKinstry Leeds United PS Dapo Mebude AFC Wimbledon PS ***** Glenn Middleton St Johnstone ** Aaron Pressley AFC Wimbledon ****** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Jacob Brown called up to the Scotland squad. Stoke winger, sounds like he might be in the Philips or Burke mode of athletic runner. Interestingly could have two black players up front for Scotland in one game, which must be a record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Full squad as Rico to lazy to put it up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaarDon Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 FIFA have fined the SFA for Scottish fans booing at Israeli's national anthem after the game at Hampdem. Are you fucking kidding me??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 4 hours ago, HaarDon said: FIFA have fined the SFA for Scottish fans booing at Israeli's national anthem after the game at Hampdem. Are you fucking kidding me??? I know, I thought the anthems were before the game. Also, I missed the start because of the queues, thus was not booing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 4 hours ago, HaarDon said: FIFA have fined the SFA for Scottish fans booing at Israeli's national anthem after the game at Hampdem. Are you fucking kidding me??? It’s a standard FIFA money making racket at the moment. These sort of fines are being handed out almost every international break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaarDon Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 22 minutes ago, Jute said: It’s a standard FIFA money making racket at the moment. These sort of fines are being handed out almost every international break. So we can't boo next time we play Engerlund or call them English hooligan wankers??? Aww Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaarDon Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 37 minutes ago, RicoS321 said: I know, I thought the anthems were before the game. Also, I missed the start because of the queues, thus was not booing. Read again lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlg1903 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 So, how we all feeling about this one then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 I think we're primed for a slip up here. Dykes being out is massive, Christie to a lesser extent. We just haven't found a way to play yet that doesn't involve the combination of Dykes and Adams up front. Unless the new boy is good, I just don't see how we plug the gap. If they get a goal from nothing, we're pretty much screwed as I don't see us getting two. On the plus side, they're fairly shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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