BigAl Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 So the day of reckoning is getting closer for the tribunal to set the fee for young Ferguson. Saw this article in The Sun ( I know, I know I shouldn't) and thought it worthy of sharing. The boy at Hamilton is surely totally fucking deluded and it appears as if their request is now up to £1.2m Surely his performances since joining us have got fuck all to do with any price put upon him. Highlights of the article include him sucking The Huns boaby regarding Docherty (correct me if I'm wrong but this is totally different as he was under contract) and also the fact that Ferguson has played all four Europa League games for Aberdeen. So which two games did I completely miss out on in the past few weeks. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/3068226/lewis-ferguson-hamilton-aberdeen-tribunal-club-philosophy-blow/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee toon red Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I think the Hamilton boy is right to demand as much as he can get and I'd back his right to do so all day long. Whether he gets it or not is another matter but put the shoe on the other foot and we'd be raging if one of the cheeks signed our hottest prospect in years and a tribunal only gave us a pittance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CvB Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 we'd be raging if one of the cheeks signed our hottest prospect in years and a tribunal only gave us a pittance. which is normally exactly what they do. Is it not a calculation based on age, years of development etc? Just because the cash giddy guffy hoors pay stupid money for somebody it doesn't mean that then sets the bar for all future transfer activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I think it is also based on the amount they have offered to retain the player - in writing - at the time of (AFCs) purchase. Plus development costs. For example, if they have offered him a 4 year deal at £1,500K per week (£300K approx total) we'd be liable for some or all of that. That's what they've valued him at and so we shouldn't be expected to pay significantly higher than that at tribunal with development costs added. That's certainly my understanding anyway, but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I think it is also based on the amount they have offered to retain the player - in writing - at the time of (AFCs) purchase. Plus development costs. For example, if they have offered him a 4 year deal at £1,500K per week (£300K approx total) we'd be liable for some or all of that. That's what they've valued him at and so we shouldn't be expected to pay significantly higher than that at tribunal with development costs added. That's certainly my understanding anyway, but I could be wrong. Think tribunal can also take into account any previous offers made to Accies for Ferguson when setting the compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlg1903 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Performance has didn't diddly squat to do with it. It's down to how much they invested in the player combined with the contract they offered. It will likely be a couple of hundred k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CvB Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 to be honest, what's the point of trying to second guess these corrupt bastards anyway? Suspensions upheld, suspensions rescinded, docking teams 2 points because it fits into a prearranged "decider" schedule (Hearts), not following up the throwing of an elbow...we'll get fucked over, others don't. It's the way it is and we just have to doff our caps, mumble "thank you very much sir" and be on our way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A llad insane Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I can see them settling the fee at around the £250k mark & tbh i think he's looking worth every penny of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lencarl Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Derek McInnes insists Aberdeen won't get drawn into a war of words with Hamilton Academical over the value of Lewis Ferguson. Maybe it is about time that Aberdeen did start saying what they think. Another club in the SPFL does it on a daily basis and their fans and the Scottish media lap it up. PS....SPFL panel will be instructed to ignore everything he’s done since pitching up at Pittodrie. And that includes his acrobatic goal in the defeat against the Clarets at Turf Moor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Derek McInnes insists Aberdeen won't get drawn into a war of words with Hamilton Academical over the value of Lewis Ferguson. Maybe it is about time that Aberdeen did start saying what they think. Another club in the SPFL does it on a daily basis and their fans and the Scottish media lap it up. PS....SPFL panel will be instructed to ignore everything he’s done since pitching up at Pittodrie. And that includes his acrobatic goal in the defeat against the Clarets at Turf Moor. We don't need to say anything because there are reasonably clear guidelines which the panel will look at. They will not respond to shitey paper talk or base their decisions on what Hamilton rep said in the Sun. There is no conspiracy either way (if anything the conspiracy would likely favour us as the bigger team), they'll base the value on development cost (as per the rules) and Hamilton's offer to the player in writing and any offers they received in writing prior to our signing him. It's absurd that any discussions are even happening in public, I'm not sure what Hamilton think they'll gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee toon red Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 We don't need to say anything because there are reasonably clear guidelines which the panel will look at. They will not respond to shitey paper talk or base their decisions on what Hamilton rep said in the Sun. There is no conspiracy either way (if anything the conspiracy would likely favour us as the bigger team), they'll base the value on development cost (as per the rules) and Hamilton's offer to the player in writing and any offers they received in writing prior to our signing him. It's absurd that any discussions are even happening in public, I'm not sure what Hamilton think they'll gain. Maybe an attempt at frightening other teams off from approaching other youngsters? Not that it should work of course but would at least be some kind of explanation. Never mind the players though, maybe we should be signing their entire youth development set up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CvB Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Maybe an attempt at frightening other teams off from approaching other youngsters? They probably need a catchy slogan to make it stick. Stranger Danger did the trick back in the day, so maybe something similarly catchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee toon red Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 They probably need a catchy slogan to make it stick. Stranger Danger did the trick back in the day, so maybe something similarly catchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordDon Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 They probably need a catchy slogan to make it stick. Stranger Danger did the trick back in the day, so maybe something similarly catchy I liked the one borrowed from Bertram Russell around the time Sevco were trying to poach McInnes - "better Red than Dead" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyFuckinPowers Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Still no update on this? Meeting began almost 6 hours ago I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A llad insane Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I heard it would be tomorrow before we hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A llad insane Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 It appears it was decided & the club were happy with outcome, although no fee was mentioned. On official site now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten Caat Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 If we are happy with it then it surely follows Hamilton cannot be. Await next statement from their arse of a chairman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elgindon Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Not sure the guy on this forum is ITK,or having a pessimistic guess.Hope he's right http://www.acciesworld.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1248&start=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc_don Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Was a bit of a nothing statement from the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlg1903 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Possibly a shrewd move by the club not releasing the fee imo. We clearly have a wee bit of cash to spend this summer and I suspect they are trying to keep their powder dry so other clubs don't know what we have available. This may yet turn out to be a good window for us as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Hamilton statement does not sound like they are happy with result. https://www.hamiltonacciesfc.co.uk/club-statement-compensation-tribunal/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlg1903 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Quite a rambling statement but clearly not too happy about the result. Ultimately the rules are the rules and form is not a part of the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc_don Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I feel for Hamilton, but we've been burnt ourselves with this situation. Absolutely delighted that we have Ferguson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA-Don Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I’d think somewhere between 100-200k. Absolute bargain from what I’ve seen so far. Certainly doesn’t play like an 18 year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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