Dons - Helen Mirren - sat

[ayrshire_don74]

fergie probably has a huns £1m release clause

[BigAl]

fergie probably has a huns £1m release clause

 

Bet he doesn't

Please explain your bizarre comment 

If he felt that way do you really think he would be committing until 2024

Destined for greater things than playing for that shower of shite.

[ayrshire_don74]

was tongue in cheek... but i do expect ferguson target for gerrard soon

[TheDeeDon]

Bet he doesn't

Please explain your bizarre comment 

If he felt that way do you really think he would be committing until 2024

Destined for greater things than playing for that shower of shite.

 

Sadly Al and despite agreeing with your post, that 'shower of shite' will always be more attractive to play for than us for most players and I do think Ferguson will end up with them at some point, but would love to be proved wrong.

[Jute]

Very poor performance from Dons against a very poor St Mirren side. Injury to Hoban looks a real bad one. Would expect he will not play in red again. No idea what Cosgrove was thinking for the penalty. Absolute stupidity. As somebody said he was brutal today but was not the only one. Chance to close the gap on the Tribute Act blown and now Hearts can close gap to 1 point if they win tomorrow.

[BigAl]

Sadly Al and despite agreeing with your post, that 'shower of shite' will always be more attractive to play for than us for most players and I do think Ferguson will end up with them at some point, but would love to be proved wrong.

 

If he were to play for The Tribute Act it will be when his career is on a downward spiral rather than now when he is going places. To get him on a deal until the summer of 2024 would be fucking great business

[donsdaft]

Sad, but looks like Hoban has played his last game for us 

 

 

 

 

Sad for the loon but what the fuck is he doing playing for us in the first place?

 

Ridiculous to fill the team with perma crocks, this was inevitable.

[SeeBass]

Not for the first time this season our No.19 got me out of trouble with said bet today.  Lost £10 on Aberdeen 4-2 (80/1), £8 Sam Cosgrove First Goal (11/4) and £10 Niall McGinn Last Goal (17/2) before £9.50 Loon Ferguson Anytime Scorer (9/2). 

[manc_don]

*sigh*

 

What a colossal fuck up.

[Guest kiriakovisthenewstrachan]

I have said on here before that DM doesn't improve players and I still stand by that.

 

I have heard that comment from a few fans DeeDon and cannot see why that could ever get thrown at McInnes.  Since he's been here Hayes, Jack, McLean have all been sought out by other clubs after their performances for us.  Those players also developed into internationals.

 

Others such as McKenna, GMS and Shinnie have also started to play international fitba in recent times.  The improvement in Ferguson, Cosgrove, even Max Lowe by his own admission, is there for all to see.

 

The Greg Stewart thing intrigues me.  Does he simply not have the required mindset to play for a "bigger" club.  He was ok as a big fish in the small pond at Killie and Dundee but in a squad where there are more players of higher ability he struggles.  In fairness, he never really got a sustained run of games the last time he was here, very rarely played the 90 minutes.  Maybe he just needs a bit of time, he's only played 8 games since coming back.

 

 

[DantheDon]

I tend to think he does improve players but only if they can fit into the system we play. The problem with Stewart is he has been taken in as a winger and hes just not suited to that position. I believe he was playing up front for Kilmarnock and that why he had more success.

[rocket_scientist]

The manager's job description in relation to players will be threefold;

 

1. Recruit the right players,

2. Develop and improve them, and

3. Manage and inspire them to be the best they could be.

 

There are other functions and roles of a football manager of course, including reviewing strengths and weaknesses of the opposition, making sure that practise and preparation works optimally, having the right support staff in coaching and scouting etc. etc. but when we talk about developing and improving players, there are some sad examples at AFC.

 

Reynolds was POTY is his first season. It was possibly (or probably) his injury that set him back but from being one of our best assets, he's been a liability and a drain on our wage bill.

 

Logan was fantastic in his first year and a half. He's been allowed to regress alarmingly.

 

Stewart was poor for us last season and yet he was very good at Dundee by all accounts and he was excellent under Steve Clarke. Too early in this return spell to judge yet but sandwiched between his good spells at two other SPFL clubs, he was poor for us.

 

McGinn was on fire once upon a time, scoring 9 times in 10 games including for his country. He has been allowed to turn into a pedestrian footballer, only very occasionally showing glimpses of the undoubted quality that he has.

 

GMS was similarly rejected by Celtic and equally frustrating is that he too has magic within him. He also doesn't produce consistently and without being able to perform at a good enough level enough of the time, you can't possibly expect to succeed.

 

Considine has not improved over the last 5/6 years. He's just an honest workhorse who has arguably been totally mismanaged but the biggest crime in relation to developing footballers has been our youth.

 

Remember that this is the manager who didn't think young James Maddison was good enough to start, a superb footballing potential who became an England international. Scott Wright, Bruce Anderson, Dean Campbell, Frank Ross, Connor McLennan have all showed great potential in the last 12 months but none of them have been given a decent chance. A great manager inspires youth and fills their heads with belief and super-confidence. The very fact that McInnes doesn't ever give them a big run is tantamount to telling them the manager doesn't think they're good enough.

 

On recruitment, McInnes is an obvious fail. On developing and improving, he is also a big fail for me.

 

The Kenny McLean example isn't a validation for McInnes. He was always a good player (so a recruitment pass) but he was allowed to get lazy and only started producing when other clubs came sniffing around. After he signed for Norwich, we finally saw the best of him so it was player-motivation rather than man-management.

 

Hayes was consistently good for us. He didn't improve under McInnes. He was always good and unlike McGinn, he never got lazy nor allowed himself to fail to produce. Ryan Jack was someone who never lost possession and was always going to be a valuable asset. Just because he got signed by them doesn't mean our manager specifically improved him as a footballer. Shinnie might have been the best LB in the country but has had too many bad games for us this season, mixed in with some great battling performances, which comes with his nature and desire. He's another potentially excellent footballer who isn't consistent enough under this manager. As for McKenna, who McInnes was forced to pick for Fir Park less than 18 months ago, he's always been a big unit who is very useful in the middle of defence but he's got his limitations and any improvement that he might be showing - and I don't see it personally, he's consistently been at this standard (so why wasn't he played earlier?) - will be simple maturation and more experience. Cosgrove is a £20k footballer and will never be a superstar. His "improvement" might not be a result of any technical coaching but the simple confidence that the first couple of goals give. I don't see any technical improvements in any of McInnes's footballers, ever.

[rocket_scientist]

Stevie May another spectacular example of a footballer going backwards under McInnes.

[A llad insane]

Awful game, no positives to take from yesterday.  G.M.S looking like he doesn't want to be here, McGinn totally anonymous .  No spark to Shinnie's game either, looks like he is off, just wondering if he is following Jack to the darkside hence his reluctance to tell us his move.

  Real shame for Hoban yesterday, happened right in front of us in the mainer & the lad was screaming in pain, doubting very much we will see him in a Dons shirt again ( or even in any shirt), guy looks a class act.

  Slack passing from Devlin yesterday, but to be fair he has been out for a while, not yet up to speed.

                  Surprised D.M waited so long to make subs (or am i ) ?  We look disjointed as a team, slow getting forward, slow build up play & poor passing, far too many backward/sideways passes.  We should have brought on some pace up top with Anderson & Wright (oh! hold on).

 

    Absolutely stupid challenge from Cosgrove for their penalty, what was he thinking ?  BalloonD'Or more like

 

Luckily all the teams just below us got beat or drew , so no real damage done, but no way are we finishing runners up this season .