SeeBass Posted February 13, 2020 Report Posted February 13, 2020 Not even sure why I was thinking about Mr Hayes earlier but we remember him saying in an interview before our 2017 Scottish Cup Final against Celtic that one had got rid of all his runner-up medals. Does this comment give impression he isn't and wasn't a team player?? Quote
Ten Caat Posted February 14, 2020 Report Posted February 14, 2020 Says to me he's only interested in winning, can't knock him for that attitude Quote
TheDeeDon Posted February 14, 2020 Report Posted February 14, 2020 I'd agree with what he has done. You could never question his commitment to the team, always gave 100% on the pitch and worked hard at both ends. He/we were unlucky not to get the cup in the 2017 final and a large part of that was done to him that day. Brenda didn't sign him for Celtic because he needed him, he did it to weaken us, which it did. Quote
rocket_scientist Posted February 14, 2020 Report Posted February 14, 2020 Runners up medals are absurd in football. Perhaps for all team sports. I wouldn't want to keep them either. Although the only fitba final I lost in - the AFC Trophy the first year it was NOT played at Pttodrie (Porterfield got the blame) - they didn't hand out medals for the losers. Individual sports are different. I was proud of my first medal aged 8, a swimming bronze against kids older and bigger than me but the silvers and golds looked and tasted better when they came. The person who thought we should give medals to beaten finalists in football was a loser himself. Fucking ridiculous notion. Quote
manc_don Posted May 30, 2020 Report Posted May 30, 2020 Released from the dhimmery today. Lots of calls from folk on social media to re-sign him. Big no from me imo. Past it, and I don't want to ruin our memory of his first time here. Certainly not on the wing. He won't have the legs anymore. Quote
Panda Posted May 30, 2020 Report Posted May 30, 2020 Wouldn't say he's past it considering he was still doing a good job for Celtic last season, and the general consensus from Celtic fans were they were happy for him to at least get another year. He was more of a left back at Celtic. I'd certainly put him in the team there allowing Considine to go more central ahead of the inevitable departure of McKenna. Would do a job for us for 1-2 seasons. Quote
RicoS321 Posted May 31, 2020 Report Posted May 31, 2020 He's a great professional, I'd have him back no bother. Significant improvement on hedges, McLennan etc. obviously. Fit, fast and a decent hit. Get him signed. Quote
Elgindon Posted June 1, 2020 Report Posted June 1, 2020 Am usually a bit meh about guys coming back,esp at Jonnys age,but in his case I'd make an exception.Sure we could squeeze a good year or two out of him yet Quote
TheDeeDon Posted June 1, 2020 Report Posted June 1, 2020 An honest pro who gives his all in every gamne and would still add quality to the team and afraid to say it, but after being at Celtic for 3 years he may even take a winners mentality to the club, which is badly needed. I don't normally want players back after they have left, but I would take him, if we could afford him. Quote
KennyFuckinPowers Posted June 1, 2020 Report Posted June 1, 2020 Interesting to hear him say there that all of the stats done by the sports scientists, at Celtic, showed he was the fittest at the Club. Maybe got a good year or two left him in by all accounts? We took McGinn back, and whilst he's nowhere near the Player he was, he's still turned it on in key moments, scored a few important goals and created a few important goals. Therefore, Hayes is a no-brainer, surely? He was a better Player than McGinn, perhaps not technically, but he created more, scored plenty, the vast majority of our goals came from from him setting them up. Wouldn't want to waste him at Left Back, I'd be relatively pleased with Leigh on a permanent at Left Back, with Hayes used out wide, where he belongs. Personally, I hope it happens. Quote
rocket_scientist Posted June 1, 2020 Report Posted June 1, 2020 If you take back Hayes, you might as well admit that winning the league is not the goal. Tragically, him at his age is probably a big improvement on the squad. Quote
LA-Don Posted June 1, 2020 Report Posted June 1, 2020 If you take back Hayes, you might as well admit that winning the league is not the goal. Tragically, him at his age is probably a big improvement on the squad. I agree and disagree with you. He's such a fit guy I could see him playing until he's 36,37 or something like that. While he's probably not the explosive winger he once was, he still looked sharp enough when I saw him and would be one of the best lefty back or wingers in the league. Saying that, I like Greg Leigh too so I'd take both, and both add to our squad. I don't see McGinn as a winher any more, more the #10, so why not add Hayes for a couple of years or more depending on how it goes. Quote
rocket_scientist Posted June 1, 2020 Report Posted June 1, 2020 I agree and disagree with you. He's such a fit guy I could see him playing until he's 36,37 or something like that. While he's probably not the explosive winger he once was, he still looked sharp enough when I saw him and would be one of the best lefty back or wingers in the league. Saying that, I like Greg Leigh too so I'd take both, and both add to our squad. I don't see McGinn as a winher any more, more the #10, so why not add Hayes for a couple of years or more depending on how it goes. I only said two things. I said he would be an obvious improvement on the squad. I also said that you don't have any ambition to win the league. If you agree and disagree, what specifically did we disagree on? Quote
LA-Don Posted June 1, 2020 Report Posted June 1, 2020 I don’t see how signing Hayes means our goal is not to win the league. I don’t agree with that statement, I don’t see the connection. Whether that is the goal or not, Hayes is still a good SPL player. Quote
rocket_scientist Posted June 1, 2020 Report Posted June 1, 2020 That's not a problem. It's good to disagree. It would be boring if we all thought the same. Quote
DantheDon Posted June 2, 2020 Report Posted June 2, 2020 I only said two things. I said he would be an obvious improvement on the squad. I also said that you don't have any ambition to win the league. If you agree and disagree, what specifically did we disagree on? I don't believe the clubs ambition at the moment is to win the league, but I think that's another discussion. Whatever your opinion on that, I don't think that bringing Jonny back is incompatible with winning the league. He is still a good player and would be a good influence within the squad. Quote
redordead Posted June 2, 2020 Report Posted June 2, 2020 I'd like to see him back playing on the opposite side from Kennedy . I think McGinn is past his best and could make way for this. McGinn in the #10 role is a decent possibility as we've not really filled it last season and despite what the glasgow media say, fergie isn't a technically strong enough player to play there. IMO. I see him as a holding player or box to box depending on formation ( with DM that's holding ) I think it would be a toss up between McGinn and hedges for that 10 spot but I'd love to see wright back fully fit and going in there. I know he has his critics but if he's added a bit of strength during his recovery I think he still has the potential to be a star for us. I felt he was starting to come good before the injury. I suppose we'll see soon enough if he still has the pace that he's known for. Quote
Ten Caat Posted June 7, 2020 Report Posted June 7, 2020 Our squad is well covered for most positions. The glaring anomaly is at left back. Now I realise that Hayes played there latterly for the Dhims but that was more about them having injuries/finding out the Bolingoli was a complete duffer. Mcinnes said on radio a fortnight ago that he doesn't expect to be making signings for the time being. Probably points to Considine starting at left back initially, but if the board do let him bring someone it then surely it has to be a proper left back. We have shoe-horned Consi in there for too long, or signed loans, who, despite generally being very good, were only short-term fixes. I certainly don't want to shoe-horn a winger who is now firmly in the veteran stages of his career in there now. Who knows where we (and Leigh himself) stand now as to the agreement we had with Breda to sign him for a pre-determined fee this summer if both parties wanted. It might be that they will be happy just to get him off their books to cut costs as many clubs will require to do. I'd hope we take him before we think of signing Hayes Quote
BigAl Posted March 11, 2022 Report Posted March 11, 2022 Have no major issue with this. Doubt he will be demanding a fortune to sign on for an extra year as long as we are planning beyond him. Quote
RicoS321 Posted March 11, 2022 Report Posted March 11, 2022 He's a fantastic professional. I had no real issue with McGinn getting another season last year and I'd say the same with Hayes. With massive overhaul required in the summer, it's good to have reliable known quantities in the squad. Quote
Jute Posted March 11, 2022 Report Posted March 11, 2022 As long as he is back up to first team and is not on a big wage then okay with this. As Al said as long we are planning beyond him. Quote
manc_don Posted March 12, 2022 Report Posted March 12, 2022 Yep, no real issues with this on the basis he’ll be back up. Brilliant professional, and clearly loves the club. Regardless, huge summer ahead Quote
BigAl Posted June 6 Report Posted June 6 Hayes has officially left the club to pursue a professional coaching role elsewhere (presumably The Victims) Thanks for the memories Johnny Quote
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