RicoS321 Posted August 15, 2020 Report Posted August 15, 2020 29 minutes ago, Edinburghdon said: The way I read it was if it was just the 4 household rule that they broke then surely the statements saying club protocols too would be redundant, makes me believe there were separate club guidelines broken. The club also made a big song a dance about the cost of the private testing so I’d assume the results would be same day or as near as or it’d be pointless, seem to remember a video the club posted showing that too although I can’t be arsed looking for it anymore. At the end of the day it’s irrelevant how clear it is to us, it’ll have been drilled in to the players and staff so they’ve only themselves to blame really. Although there’s a decent amount of info on the SFA site on the general framework (minimal interaction between players outside games/training etc, testing, screening) even if the specifics of the club policies aren’t published. The abuse and stick they’re seemingly getting is out of order but the punishments probably aren’t (assuming the standard punishments in line with rule 24 etc are applied). Yep, very reasonable, it's a shame we only ever get half the story. I think I remember reading it was one or two days to get tests back. Remember, Hibs didn't get tests returned in time for a pre-season game to go ahead? In retrospect, I think you're right, perhaps 4 game ban wouldn't be that unreasonable because if the games hadn't been cancelled then that's the number of games they could have missed (3 in the dons case, but there are some 14 day periods that have 4 matches). Hopefully they'll sort out the time it takes for future offences as, had the games gone ahead then the players could have faced missing 7 matches in total which would seem mental. You'd think that the rules would have been drilled into the players, but that clearly wasn't the case at AFC, given Johnny Hayes explanation. You wonder if the testing part and match day and training protocols have been drilled in, but they didn't pay much attention to the out of office guidelines, which would be basically the same for all of us. They'll definitely be aware of them now. Quote
wee toon red Posted August 19, 2020 Report Posted August 19, 2020 Reading between the lines here, looks like it was McKenna and Anderson who actually caught COVID as Hayes, Kennedy, McGeouch and Bryson all available for tomorrow night, with Cosgrove and Devlin injured anyway. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53839625 Apologies if this isn't news and I'm repeating something posted elsewhere. Quote
RicoS321 Posted August 19, 2020 Report Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, wee toon red said: Reading between the lines here, looks like it was McKenna and Anderson who actually caught COVID as Hayes, Kennedy, McGeouch and Bryson all available for tomorrow night, with Cosgrove and Devlin injured anyway. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53839625 Apologies if this isn't news and I'm repeating something posted elsewhere. That wouldn't necessarily be the case. If the two had zero symptoms, then ten days would be the isolation period I think. Those who were in contact would be longer I think, 14 days. Quote
wee toon red Posted August 20, 2020 Report Posted August 20, 2020 13 hours ago, RicoS321 said: That wouldn't necessarily be the case. If the two had zero symptoms, then ten days would be the isolation period I think. Those who were in contact would be longer I think, 14 days. Aye, true. Just seems odd that two of them would be out for longer than the others, unless they had contact with whoever was infected beyond the Saturday night. Quote
RicoS321 Posted August 23, 2020 Report Posted August 23, 2020 On 20/08/2020 at 09:15, wee toon red said: Aye, true. Just seems odd that two of them would be out for longer than the others, unless they had contact with whoever was infected beyond the Saturday night. McKenna didn't start the second half due to illness. Covid after effects? Quote
Ten Caat Posted August 24, 2020 Report Posted August 24, 2020 16 hours ago, RicoS321 said: McKenna didn't start the second half due to illness. Covid after effects? Vomited at HT apparently. Likely not related to covid. Quote
rocket_scientist Posted August 24, 2020 Report Posted August 24, 2020 32 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: Vomited at HT apparently. Likely not related to covid. Without being there and without having medical expertise and background, I would find it unlikely that anyone could speculate on the likely reason or non-reasons for vomiting. The one reason for vomiting that would have been even less likely than any effects of a virus was if he had contracted the same syndrome as the nurse in the excellent film Knives Out. She spewed on the occasion of her relating anything untrue, a condition that may well be entirely fictional but which added much to a memorable scene in a memorable fictional movie. Quote
BigAl Posted August 28, 2020 Author Report Posted August 28, 2020 Anyone know what time the player's fate is to be disclosed ? Quote
RicoS321 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Posted August 28, 2020 3 hours ago, BigAl said: Anyone know what time the player's fate is to be disclosed ? Two minutes before the Hibs game kicks off I'm guessing. Surely punishment will begin next week? Announcing on a Friday would seem bizarre, and could totally fuck up preparations for Sunday. I'm assuming they wouldn't do that? Quote
BigAl Posted August 28, 2020 Author Report Posted August 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, RicoS321 said: Two minutes before the Hibs game kicks off I'm guessing. Surely punishment will begin next week? Announcing on a Friday would seem bizarre, and could totally fuck up preparations for Sunday. I'm assuming they wouldn't do that? This is Scottish fitba we're talking about though Rico. From the word go, today has been the date for the announcement so the fact it's a Friday is irrelevant I guess. Think best we can hope for is suspended bans in my opinion. Quote
Jute Posted August 28, 2020 Report Posted August 28, 2020 51 minutes ago, BigAl said: This is Scottish fitba we're talking about though Rico. From the word go, today has been the date for the announcement so the fact it's a Friday is irrelevant I guess. Think best we can hope for is suspended bans in my opinion. Cannot see it being a suspended sentence. They will be looking to make examples of players. I expect at least two game bans to be handed out. Whatever punishment is handed out Boli should get a more severe one. Bet he doesn’t though. Given JRGs comments about clubs procedures being above SFA guidelines there is no way the club should be getting punished for players breeching clubs rules. Quote
RicoS321 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Posted August 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Jute said: Cannot see it being a suspended sentence. They will be looking to make examples of players. I expect at least two game bans to be handed out. Whatever punishment is handed out Boli should get a more severe one. Bet he doesn’t though. Given JRGs comments about clubs procedures being above SFA guidelines there is no way the club should be getting punished for players breeching clubs rules. I'd have thought a three or four match ban would be about right. They'd have missed 3 games if the government hadn't cancelled the fixtures, so that would seem reasonable. Four if they're trying to standardise the punishment, as that would be the maximum number of games in a two week period. I think the point about suspension, is that it should be suspended until Monday, as it would be ludicrous to hand out a punishment this close to a game. Quote
Panda Posted August 28, 2020 Report Posted August 28, 2020 6 hours ago, BigAl said: Anyone know what time the player's fate is to be disclosed ? 4pm is the hearing. Quote
BigAl Posted August 28, 2020 Author Report Posted August 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Panda said: 4pm is the hearing. Cheers Panda Why so late on in the day though ? Quote
tom_widdows Posted August 28, 2020 Report Posted August 28, 2020 17 minutes ago, BigAl said: Cheers Panda Why so late on in the day though ? Thats about the time pricks like to send emails that will stress your out and ruin your weekend. Anywhere between 4pm and 445pm, click send then leg it out of the office to avoid the angry phone call Quote
RicoS321 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Posted August 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, tom_widdows said: Thats about the time pricks like to send emails that will stress your out and ruin your weekend. Anywhere between 4pm and 445pm, click send then leg it out of the office to avoid the angry phone call Just to let you know your entire extended family has been kidnapped. Let me know if you need anything, I'm off now until October, and won't be checking my email. Have a great weekend. 1 Quote
tup1 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Posted August 28, 2020 34 minutes ago, BigAl said: Cheers Panda Why so late on in the day though ? I'd say it's to give the panel time to get blazing first if I was guessing. Quote
tom_widdows Posted August 28, 2020 Report Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 3 game suspended ban all round (suspended till February 28th) Edited August 28, 2020 by tom_widdows Quote
dons8321 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Posted August 28, 2020 3 hours ago, tup1 said: I'd say it's to give the panel time to get blazing first if I was guessing. 3 match ban for all, suspended until Feb '21 and only comes into effect if they re-offend. https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish-fa/football-governance/disciplinary/disciplinary-updates/ SFA in sensible shocker! Quote
BigAl Posted August 28, 2020 Author Report Posted August 28, 2020 Result in my opinion Now let's get on with playing catch up starting on Sunday. Quote
tom_widdows Posted August 28, 2020 Report Posted August 28, 2020 Bolingoli gets an actual 3 game ban with an additional 2 games suspended till February 28th Quote
DantheDon Posted August 28, 2020 Report Posted August 28, 2020 Have to say I'm pretty astonished at how sensible an approach this is from the SFA. Was expecting them to throw the book at us. They even took into account the more serious nature of Bolingoli's offence and punished accordingly. Quote
RicoS321 Posted August 28, 2020 Report Posted August 28, 2020 Yep, really well done. Right decision. Quote
LA-Don Posted August 28, 2020 Report Posted August 28, 2020 Wow. Blown away that common sense seems to have raised its unusual head at the SFA..... Quote
rocket_scientist Posted August 28, 2020 Report Posted August 28, 2020 Highly unusual indeed. But let's not go around sucking each other's dicks quite yet, as someone said, I forget who, probably the Wolf. This is like praising the man who didn't rob a bank. As someone said. Fuck knows who. Quote
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