manc_don Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Djokovic vs federer turning out to be a very decent warm up to the nasal Murray match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyBiscuit Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Djokovic vs federer turning out to be a very decent warm up to the nasal Murray match. Has Andy got a cold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc_don Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Has Andy got a cold? Good old predicta text! Some cracking rallies, fingers crossed djokovic manages to break federer. Great comeback by Djokovic, federer will be devastated after losing twice in the same manner to him. Especially on match point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick sheep Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Good old predicta text! Some cracking rallies, fingers crossed djokovic manages to break federer. Great comeback by Djokovic, federer will be devastated after losing twice in the same manner to him. Especially on match point Roger Federer is the greatest tennis player in the history of the universe (of his generation...from Switzerland). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbadteacher Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Nah. None of you young eens ever saw Macenroe at his (not moaning at umpires) best Awesome, and the only player I ever saw in the days of real (non technicaly augmented by science) players better than Borg (Edit like Seve could hit the fucking ball miles withoot some crypronite/aircon driver) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caledonia Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Andy Murray has just been beaten by Nadal 4-6 2-6 6-3 6-2 Played great in parts but just not enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie03 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 7th player in history to reach all grand slam semis in a year. federer is the only person to do it more than once, which seems incredible. It certainly does I thought I heard the commentator say that if Murray made it to the final then Federer would drop to World Number 4 which on the evidence of the tennis played last night would have been a travesty. I reckon the world rankings are spot on. I have now accepted that Murray will never win a grand slam - I knew he was beaten as early as the 2nd game when he was hitting his racquet off his shoes Anyway fair play to him for his semis, just a pity he can't rise to the occasion when required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbadteacher Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Nadal does have a HUGE arse though, maybe the way to success? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrant Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I got an ipad and got Sky Go connected to my old man's Sky account so I can get all the sports on my ipad so I was able to watch the semi. Although I wish I hadn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc_don Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I got an ipad and got Sky Go connected to my old man's Sky account so I can get all the sports on my ipad so I was able to watch the semi. Although I wish I hadn't. it was an awful watch, so much so I went to bed during the second set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket_scientist Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 The big difference between him and the top three... they rarely do this, he does this often. It saps his energy. Article in the Sunday Times on 3rd July by Barry Flatman with the title "Winning Grand Slam is all in the mind for despondent Scot". Quote by Boris Becker splashed across the top - "Murray is more fragile between the ears than the big three". Much as it is sad to see a Scot try so hard and come up short EVERY time, what's really tragic is that he, his entourage and his "fans" fail to see, let alone understand what the problem actually is. The dog died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrant Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 it was an awful watch, so much so I went to bed during the second set. Aye I turned it off after he was broken for the first time in the second. Australian will be his time! [/otimism that's got absolutely no foundation unless the top 3 drop dead] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherock Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Aye I turned it off after he was broken for the first time in the second. Australian will be his time! [/otimism that's got absolutely no foundation unless the top 3 drop dead] I'm heading back over east again next January to give him my support.... more in hope, rather than expectancy! Everyone has their own thoughts on Andy Murray. As much as I'm a fan, I don't buy into these 'mentally weak' theories. I watch a lot of tennis and the bottom line is that Murray just isn't good enough. He's nowhere near the level of the top three. It's tough to accept but unfortunately not everyone can be good enough... there are far too many holes within his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket_scientist Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I'm heading back over east again next January to give him my support.... more in hope, rather than expectancy! Everyone has their own thoughts on Andy Murray. As much as I'm a fan, I don't buy into these 'mentally weak' theories. I watch a lot of tennis and the bottom line is that Murray just isn't good enough. He's nowhere near the level of the top three. It's tough to accept but unfortunately not everyone can be good enough... there are far too many holes within his game. Why would your opinion prevail over Boris Becker's, when there is an obvious straightforward conflict here? Surely you concede his greater qualification in this field? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Why would your opinion prevail over Boris Becker's, when there is an obvious straightforward conflict here? Surely you concede his greater qualification in this field? Boris Becker is a sports psychologist? Anyhow, I am convinced he's a too mentally brittle to keep it together. All the talent in the world but without the top of the line focus and mentality Djokovic/Nadal/Federer have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick sheep Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 he's a terrific player but the arrogance that stops him accepting constructive criticism or objective tactical advice stops him reaching the level of the big 3. needs to tell mummy to fuck off too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 he's a terrific player but the arrogance that stops him accepting constructive criticism or objective tactical advice stops him reaching the level of the big 3. needs to tell mummy to fuck off too. I don't know what the basis for any of that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket_scientist Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I don't know what the basis for any of that is. And yet "the basis" for this is what? Anyhow, I am convinced he's a too mentally brittle to keep it together. All the talent in the world but without the top of the line focus and mentality Djokovic/Nadal/Federer have. I suspect that I actually agree with you both in the main but on the mummy point, it's fucking obvious that she's got mental health issues and that he would have been better served striking out on his own a long time ago. The coaching inconsistency may well be because of mumsy. Her obsession is counter-productive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick sheep Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I don't know what the basis for any of that is. the fact that he dismissed the coaches that questioned him or suggested doing things differently. Gilbert in particular. Fair enough not to take to an individual but he's settled for having pals around to laugh at his jokes and pamper his ego, rather than proper coaches. It just seems to me like he's taking more on his own shoulders than needs be. and judy murray is an extremely arrogant person herself. she's achieved a lot, but apparently has issues with anyone who doesn't treat her darling son like royalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrant Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 the fact that he dismissed the coaches that questioned him or suggested doing things differently. Gilbert in particular. Fair enough not to take to an individual but he's settled for having pals around to laugh at his jokes and pamper his ego, rather than proper coaches. It just seems to me like he's taking more on his own shoulders than needs be. and judy murray is an extremely arrogant person herself. she's achieved a lot, but apparently has issues with anyone who doesn't treat her darling son like royalty. Fit's that based on like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Fit's that based on like? The word "apparently" by the looks of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Fit's that based on like? My thoughts exactly. The rest is complete supposition also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket_scientist Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Some people on here would be best advised to read Blink by Malcolm Gladwell. Unfortunately when words such as "supposition" get used in an attempt to discredit the "basis" of an opinion or impression, then the philosophy contained within the said book would undoubtedly be unattainable. Damn fine read though, highly unusual in that it articulates and explores subject matters rarely acknowledged to exist despite massively overwhelming evidence that they do. Instinct and wisdom, gentlemen. Get yourselves out of the sticks, you literal liberals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Unfortunately when words such as "supposition" get used in an attempt to discredit the "basis" of an opinion or impression "and judy murray is an extremely arrogant person herself. " is not an opinion or impression, it is written as a statement of fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I don't mind people expressing opinions/beliefs. When they are expressed as facts then what can you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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