RicoS321 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 31 minutes ago, Panda said: Do we have shitloads of cover at CB? With Devlin & Considine gone and McCrorie earmarked for elsewhere, I wouldn't say we're well covered there at all. We should sign players who are an improvement on what we have. Step forward Michael Hector. We have two right sided centre backs and no left sided centre backs. McRorie can also cover on the right. All three are shite on the left. We've just had an entire season of proof of how disastrous that is. I've never seen Hector play on his wrong side to pass comment, but you don't actively sign a player to play on his weaker side for obvious reasons (it's fine if it happens due to injury of course). We should only sign players who are an improvement if we're removing others from the squad. Otherwise that budget is taken from another area on the pitch. The last thing we need is the expense of both Bates and Gallagher on the bench when we could spend that on a good attacking midfielder. At our level, it's always an either or. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Going to go against the grain and say would not be keen on signing Hector. Think we would be paying over the odds for a mediocre player. Also as Rico says we already have plenty right sided cover at centre back. Would rather we looked at strengthening other areas first. As for Rooney cannot fault his work ethic but St Johnstone are his level. We should be looking for better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 14 hours ago, RicoS321 said: We have two right sided centre backs and no left sided centre backs. McRorie can also cover on the right. All three are shite on the left. We've just had an entire season of proof of how disastrous that is. I've never seen Hector play on his wrong side to pass comment, but you don't actively sign a player to play on his weaker side for obvious reasons (it's fine if it happens due to injury of course). We should only sign players who are an improvement if we're removing others from the squad. Otherwise that budget is taken from another area on the pitch. The last thing we need is the expense of both Bates and Gallagher on the bench when we could spend that on a good attacking midfielder. At our level, it's always an either or. Who said anything about playing Hector on the left? If there was any possibility of signing Hector (and I doubt there is tbf) and we turned him down because we've got Declan Gallagher there, then that might be what finally ends me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Panda said: Who said anything about playing Hector on the left? If there was any possibility of signing Hector (and I doubt there is tbf) and we turned him down because we've got Declan Gallagher there, then that might be what finally ends me. It's fairly straight forward. We don't currently have a left sided centre half, so we absolutely need to sign one of those. It's in the top three priority wise (I'd say the top, but it doesn't matter). If we sign Hector, then we've got two very expensive centre backs on the bench (plus McRorie as cover for that position if required). We're not going to turn down signing Hector because we want to play Gallagher, but because we've already got Gallagher and it might be difficult to offload him. My point throughout has been that we shouldn't sign players without offloading others first. I actually don't know what you're suggesting? Is it that you think we can not sign a left sided centre back? Or do you think we can have a squad containing Gallagher, Bates and Hector? Otherwise we're in agreement, that Hector could only join in place of one of the existing players (although I wouldn't be entirely comfortable with a player like Bates on the bench, that'd be expensive). Edited May 25, 2022 by RicoS321 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 8 hours ago, RicoS321 said: It's fairly straight forward. We don't currently have a left sided centre half, so we absolutely need to sign one of those. It's in the top three priority wise (I'd say the top, but it doesn't matter). If we sign Hector, then we've got two very expensive centre backs on the bench (plus McRorie as cover for that position if required). We're not going to turn down signing Hector because we want to play Gallagher, but because we've already got Gallagher and it might be difficult to offload him. My point throughout has been that we shouldn't sign players without offloading others first. I actually don't know what you're suggesting? Is it that you think we can not sign a left sided centre back? Or do you think we can have a squad containing Gallagher, Bates and Hector? Otherwise we're in agreement, that Hector could only join in place of one of the existing players (although I wouldn't be entirely comfortable with a player like Bates on the bench, that'd be expensive). If we had the remotest chance of signing Hector, then absolutely we should sign him regardless of whoever is in the squad already. The same way I wouldn't turn down Graeme Shinnie because we've already got Dean Campbell. Would it impact on signing a LCB, I don't know, but on account he's a better RCB than anyone else at the club he would add value to the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, Panda said: If we had the remotest chance of signing Hector, then absolutely we should sign him regardless of whoever is in the squad already. The same way I wouldn't turn down Graeme Shinnie because we've already got Dean Campbell. Would it impact on signing a LCB, I don't know, but on account he's a better RCB than anyone else at the club he would add value to the team. Dean Campbell wouldn't be a high earner unlike both Gallagher and Bates, it's not remotely the same. There would be no point at which you would say that a certain position doesn't really need improving and that other priorities would be better pursued? I'd like to think that's where the recruitment specialist would intervene and then the chairman. It would be a shocking use of budget. It's not a case of a player adding value, it's about how much value a player can add if the priority areas aren't addressed. Do you genuinely think Hector is that good that he could hold together a defence of one? Any good left sided centre back alongside Bates would be significantly better than Hector and Bates (on the left). He was pish there in his own right without adding Gallagher to the mix, there's nothing Hector could do to improve him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee toon red Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Rooney signed for Fleetwood so that’s someone we aren’t signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 hours ago, RicoS321 said: Dean Campbell wouldn't be a high earner unlike both Gallagher and Bates, it's not remotely the same. There would be no point at which you would say that a certain position doesn't really need improving and that other priorities would be better pursued? I'd like to think that's where the recruitment specialist would intervene and then the chairman. It would be a shocking use of budget. It's not a case of a player adding value, it's about how much value a player can add if the priority areas aren't addressed. Do you genuinely think Hector is that good that he could hold together a defence of one? Any good left sided centre back alongside Bates would be significantly better than Hector and Bates (on the left). He was pish there in his own right without adding Gallagher to the mix, there's nothing Hector could do to improve him. Stop fretting about how much Hector is going to cost, Goodwin is currently negotiating a bargain deal to land Charles Dunne for the left side. It'll be fine. Peterhead and Stirling Albion won't know what's hit them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 8 hours ago, Panda said: Stop fretting about how much Hector is going to cost, Goodwin is currently negotiating a bargain deal to land Charles Dunne for the left side. It'll be fine. Peterhead and Stirling Albion won't know what's hit them. To be fair, I'd take a dream homecoming of Shaugnessy and Hector. With Bates and Gallagher sent on a permanent North sea cruise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Lancelot Pollard decides to become a Judas Hun cunt before me even getting the chance to realise we had a young player called Lancelot Pollard. I've always hated him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted May 28, 2022 Author Share Posted May 28, 2022 Sure I read somewhere in the last month or so that his father has been hooring him around clubs and that he isn't half as good as they claim he is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordDon Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Quote Rangers hold off competition from Man Utd and Liverpool to sign Aberdeen starlet Lancelot Pollard (says tabloid equating itself to an astronomical bag of gas) In other news, I just beat Elon Musk and the Pope to the last pack of mince in my local Sainsburys. Somebody go tell them they are out of the running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Only realised his sister is London Pollard, who is a very good player in the women's football scene. I've all I've got - never seen Lancelot play so no idea if to be gutted or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedKev Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 So word from C-park is we are in talks with a left sided centre back that "will excite the fans" also rumour of £1M fee we have submitted for a striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 There is also rumour about a defensive central midfielder from MTK Budapest. Albanian international born in Germany. Absolutely no idea if any of the rumours on the go are true. Cannot see us paying £1m fee for anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 26 minutes ago, RedKev said: So word from C-park is we are in talks with a left sided centre back that "will excite the fans" They did a U-turn on Considine? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elgindon Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 28 minutes ago, Jute said: There is also rumour about a defensive central midfielder from MTK Budapest. Albanian international born in Germany. Absolutely no idea if any of the rumours on the go are true. Cannot see us paying £1m fee for anyone. This guy. 'Poised' to sign a 2 year deal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ylber_Ramadani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, Elgindon said: This guy. 'Poised' to sign a 2 year deal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ylber_Ramadani That’s the one. Last two clubs have been relegated which always gives me pause for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, RedKev said: So word from C-park is we are in talks with a left sided centre back that "will excite the fans" Charlie Mulgrew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Elgindon said: This guy. 'Poised' to sign a 2 year deal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ylber_Ramadani Foreign, so automatically amazing. He'll probably only turn up for one month a year. Could you imagine McInnes ever signing an Albanian Internationalist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elgindon Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Fingers crossed that month isnt Ramadanish 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordDon Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 4 hours ago, RedKev said: rumour of £1M fee we have submitted for a striker That seems a lot to pay for Curtis Main 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dons8321 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 12 minutes ago, OxfordDon said: That seems a lot to pay for Curtis Main £1 would be a lot to pay for Curtis Main. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted May 29, 2022 Author Share Posted May 29, 2022 Well well, nip out for a round of golf and we allegedly sign an internationalist What's this about a million pound striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_widdows Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 20 minutes ago, BigAl said: Well well, nip out for a round of golf and we allegedly sign an internationalist What's this about a million pound striker Trevor francis out of retirement 5 hours ago, Elgindon said: This guy. 'Poised' to sign a 2 year deal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ylber_Ramadani This generations Illian Kiriakov? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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