OxfordDon Posted March 19, 2022 Report Posted March 19, 2022 Remaining games borrowed from an earlier post by Panda: Dundee Utd (39): Hibernian (A); Dundee (H) Hibernian (37): Dundee Utd (H); Hearts (A) Livingston (37): St Johnstone (A); Motherwell (H) Ross County (36): Hearts (H); Aberdeen (H) Motherwell (36): St Mirren (H); Livingston (A) St Mirren (36): Motherwell (A); Rangers (H) Aberdeen (35): Dundee (A); Ross County (H) We clearly still need two wins out of two, but how do folk predict the final standings? Quote
RicoS321 Posted March 19, 2022 Report Posted March 19, 2022 Interesting. If we win both of our final games then we're guaranteed at least eighth because Livingston, Motherwell and St Mirren all play each other. More than likely that series of fixtures will see a draw in one of the three that would guarantee us seventh. I could see Hibs losing two, or getting a couple of draws too. I would think it would be difficult for us to win both and not get top six at this stage, given that we have the best goal difference of all six teams (indeed goal difference is usually a reliable indicator of overall standings, within reason). Quote
Slim Posted March 19, 2022 Report Posted March 19, 2022 I think we’re banking on St Johnstone taking something off Livingston at home assuming we win both our matches. I think we’ve got the best goal difference out of most of the teams above us. Quote
RicoS321 Posted March 19, 2022 Report Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Slim said: I think we’re banking on St Johnstone taking something off Livingston at home assuming we win both our matches. I think we’ve got the best goal difference out of most of the teams above us. I don't think so to be honest. Motherwell have as good a chance of taking something against Livingston too. If we get two wins, given our goal difference (and unless there is a big swing in a single match), then any of the teams bar utd not getting maximum points will leave them behind us. If you assume utd get at least two points (and that isn't a given, but they do play Dundee!) then you'd need two more teams in that list to get 6 points for us to be pushed out. It's only possible for three teams to do that, and it'd require Hibs to beat Dundee United and Hearts (which I think is unlikely), plus both Livi or Motherwell (if Livi win both, then Motherwell can't and vice versa) plus St Mirren (who play the Huns) to win their matches. It would take a lot of bad luck for us to win both games and not finish in the top six, to the extent that I'd say it's in our own hands. Best results for us in the next game would be any two of: Utd and Hibs to draw; Motherwell and St Mirren to draw; Livi to drop points. That would ensure that if we beat county we're top six. Quote
Panda Posted March 20, 2022 Report Posted March 20, 2022 Every single result had gone our way on Saturday right up until Dundee United's late goal. Still think we need maximum points, and even then I'm not sure it'll be enough, but at 1-0 v Hibs I was already trying to put a positive spin on us not having to bother with the European qualifiers next season. It's nice to still be in the fight. Quote
tlg1903 Posted March 20, 2022 Report Posted March 20, 2022 At the very least it feels like there is still something to play for and we all would have snapped the hand of that offer when we went out of the cup. Quote
wee toon red Posted March 20, 2022 Report Posted March 20, 2022 Two wins for us gets us to 41 pts. We need no more then two of the other teams to get above that. Utd: will get at least 42 by beating Dundee. Hibs: Unlikely. Best result for us would be them failing to beat utd. Livi: could possibly win both games. county: if we’re winning both games they’re not finishing above us. well: could win both games. st mirren: unlikely to beat the huns. livi v well and Arabs v hibs look like the big games but you’ve got to think two wins and it would need some very unlike things to happen to keep us out. Quote
OxfordDon Posted April 2, 2022 Author Report Posted April 2, 2022 Best possible result for this us this weekend (assuming we win) is wins for Dundee Utd, St Johnstone & Hearts, and for Well & St Mirren to draw. Incredibly that will jump us to 5th and put top 6 in our own hands next week. Quote
RicoS321 Posted April 2, 2022 Report Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, OxfordDon said: Best possible result for this us this weekend (assuming we win) is wins for Dundee Utd, St Johnstone & Hearts, and for Well & St Mirren to draw. Incredibly that will jump us to 5th and put top 6 in our own hands next week. A draw between Utd and Hibs would be better if we're trying to finish as high as possible. It would put us on the same points as Hibs but with at least a plus two goal difference. If we were both to win our final games then they'd have to beat Hearts by two goals more than we beat county, which is probably unlikely. It'd also leave the possibility that we could be in fourth at the split, with utd only being two points ahead with the draw. Four points ahead at the split would be difficult to overcome. Or we could just lose today, putting us out of our misery. Edit: we've also got a better goals for than Hibs, which I think is the next criteria for placing, so they'd need a three goal swing to finish ahead of us (or more if we win by more than one today). Edited April 2, 2022 by RicoS321 Quote
OxfordDon Posted April 2, 2022 Author Report Posted April 2, 2022 2 hours ago, RicoS321 said: Or we could just lose today, putting us out of our misery. Looks like the misery continues. If I haven't read the table wrong, it's all actually become very simple - we have to beat Ross County, and Hibs have to lose or draw against Hearts. If that happens, we are 6th, the other results don't matter. If Hibs win we are 7th. 2 Quote
OxfordDon Posted April 2, 2022 Author Report Posted April 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, OxfordDon said: Looks like the misery continues. If I haven't read the table wrong, it's all actually become very simple - we have to beat Ross County, and Hibs have to lose or draw against Hearts. If that happens, we are 6th, the other results don't matter. If Hibs win we are 7th. Richard Gordon, stop copying my homework min 2 Quote
RicoS321 Posted April 2, 2022 Report Posted April 2, 2022 Can you imagine the scenes at pittodrie next week if we score a last minute winner to seal top six glory? Unforgettable. 1 Quote
OxfordDon Posted April 2, 2022 Author Report Posted April 2, 2022 Off to spraypaint "Any win is a Goodwin" on the side of the open-top bus in anticipation. Quote
BigAl Posted April 2, 2022 Report Posted April 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, RicoS321 said: Can you imagine the scenes at pittodrie next week if we score a last minute winner to seal top six glory? Unforgettable. A hugely embarassing pitch invasion will ensue no doubt Rico 1 Quote
dons8321 Posted April 2, 2022 Report Posted April 2, 2022 1 hour ago, OxfordDon said: Looks like the misery continues. If I haven't read the table wrong, it's all actually become very simple - we have to beat Ross County, and Hibs have to lose or draw against Hearts. If that happens, we are 6th, the other results don't matter. If Hibs win we are 7th. When I got home after watching our 3rd XI lose in a cup final (playing against 10 men for 65mins) and saw the result thought ah well, that's that then. Now you've opened the door called "hope" again! Quote
BigAl Posted April 2, 2022 Report Posted April 2, 2022 21 minutes ago, dons8321 said: When I got home after watching our 3rd XI lose in a cup final (playing against 10 men for 65mins) and saw the result thought ah well, that's that then. Now you've opened the door called "hope" again! Aye it's the hope that fucks you up min Quote
tom_widdows Posted April 2, 2022 Report Posted April 2, 2022 4 hours ago, RicoS321 said: Can you imagine the scenes at pittodrie next week if we score a last minute winner to seal top six glory? Unforgettable. As seen at caley thistle in 2006 Quote
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