Sharpie Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 The difference being he doesn't have another offer yet. That's a fair point. If you did that in a normal workplace then you would be telt to just go and fuck off. But it is no normal workplace. Aberdeen are skint and Calderwood's nouse in transfer and contract dealings seem to lead to these situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetchuck Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Unless you sign for the top 2 or 3 teams in your league then chances are you're not going to achieve very much. We had a great season in comparison to the past 10 years but we still achieved fuck all really. We blew 2 semi-finals this year. We could quite easily have been in two cup finals, with a genuine opportunity of winning at least one. Who's to say that next year will be any worse? What professional footballer doesn't want to win silverware? Let's not forget that we played well below our capabilities for much of the season, and that next year could hopefully be much more consistent. Maybe he does and maybe he doesn't. The fact he's came out and said it won't put AFC off of signing him but it has got his name in the paper and advertised himself in the process. As you rightly recognise, football players routinely do anything or say anything in order to get their faces in the press when they're looking for new contracts. If he had any real interest in signing for us, he would have done so by now. It's not any different to what Nicolson has done. Nicholson has said that it's not about the money, and I'm inclined to believe him. He could easily have sat in the Rangers reserves instead of going to Dunfermline when he did. He's clearly stated that he wants a new challenge, not more money. Perhaps I'm overly gullible, but I do believe that there's some truth in that. If I was a professional footballer, I'd want to try my hand at different styles of football. Maybury has had his shot down south, and he didn't do particularly well at all. He's now found a fairly cushy number up here, but he's prepared to sacrifice that for the sake of an extra few grand a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Recent football transfers from Scotland to England are littered with guys going south, enjoying the cash but not getting to play and not settling in England and as a result, not enjoying it. Then returning north for less money, some regular football and better social and family lives. Players must have seen this being replicated over and over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbadteacher Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 If another company were offering me better wages i would jump at it in a second, i think most of the people on here would always be looking for more money! No, actually I wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbadteacher Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 You are an idiot then. Nope. I just value quality of life and am very happy at my current place of work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Nope. I just value quality of life and am very happy at my current place of work We know, you never stop telling us how happy you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Tradesman Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 We blew 2 semi-finals this year. We could quite easily have been in two cup finals, with a genuine opportunity of winning at least one. Who's to say that next year will be any worse? What professional footballer doesn't want to win silverware? Let's not forget that we played well below our capabilities for much of the season, and that next year could hopefully be much more consistent. Shoulda, woulda, coulda...... I'm sure the same thing is said on any of the chat sites that Maybury might plum for. As you rightly recognise, football players routinely do anything or say anything in order to get their faces in the press when they're looking for new contracts. If he had any real interest in signing for us, he would have done so by now. You mean like Lee '11th hour' Miller? Nicholson has said that it's not about the money, and I'm inclined to believe him. He could easily have sat in the Rangers reserves instead of going to Dunfermline when he did. He's clearly stated that he wants a new challenge, not more money. Perhaps I'm overly gullible, but I do believe that there's some truth in that. If I was a professional footballer, I'd want to try my hand at different styles of football. Nicolson is slightly different in the fact he's nearing the end of his career and has played in the SPL for all of it. Maybury is still to make a name for himself and perhaps he thinks he's a better chance of doing that in the lower leagues down south where the scouts will be out in force. Perhaps it's not all about money? Maybury has had his shot down south, and he didn't do particularly well at all. He's now found a fairly cushy number up here, but he's prepared to sacrifice that for the sake of an extra few grand a year. I'm sure he can have as many 'shots' of it as he wants. Maybe he's not that impressed with the set up at Pittodrie, maybe he thinks the staff are arseholes, maybe he doesn't like the bog roll, maybe he's already as bored of the league as the rest of us, maybe he thinks the women of Aberdeen are howlers or maybe we're not offering enough and he's just chasing the Yankee dollar. Who is to say? If he is fucking off for more money then he won't be the first and I don't blame him. He won't be getting more money than Hart or surely we'd have kept Hart? Who himself left for more cash because we offered him peanuts. Put yourself in his shoes. You're a young lad who is trying to make as much money as you can over a short period of time. You've no ties to family or emotional tie to any club. Why would you pick Aberdeen over anyone else? Because they might win something 15 years after they last lifted some silverware? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetchuck Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Shoulda, woulda, coulda...... I'm sure the same thing is said on any of the chat sites that Maybury might plum for. Is that so? Name me one other cub in the UK which blew not one but two semi-finals this year when they had a realistic chance of going all the way. You mean like Lee '11th hour' Miller? You think Miller genuinely wanted to sign for us again? Not a chance. If there was a bigger, better offer on the table, he would have been gone in a flash. He's more canny than Maybury though: he's been through the same thing - move down south, get found out, move back north - and is clearly slightly more picky about who he signs for down south. He at least didn't fanny around with the fans though, making ridiculous statements about how he liked the club and wanted to stay, despite also stating that he, er, wanted to leave. Maybury would to well to follow suit. Nicolson is slightly different in the fact he's nearing the end of his career and has played in the SPL for all of it. Maybury is still to make a name for himself and perhaps he thinks he's a better chance of doing that in the lower leagues down south where the scouts will be out in force. Perhaps it's not all about money? Nicholson is only two weeks older than Maybury, who has already played down south and flopped. If he knows he couldn't cut it before, how ambitious is it to try again, when he must know deep down that he'll never be at clubs as big as Leeds or Leicester again? In any case, Maybury is far more well-known down south than Nicholson is, so the idea that Maybury needs to make a name for himself whilst Nicholson doesn't is a strange one indeed. I'm sure he can have as many 'shots' of it as he wants. Maybe he's not that impressed with the set up at Pittodrie, maybe he thinks the staff are arseholes, maybe he doesn't like the bog roll, maybe he's already as bored of the league as the rest of us, maybe he thinks the women of Aberdeen are howlers or maybe we're not offering enough and he's just chasing the Yankee dollar. Who is to say? In that case, why is he constantly talking about how he'd be prepared to stay? Front up and sign, or admit that all you're interested in is the bigger pay-packet down south. If he is fucking off for more money then he won't be the first and I don't blame him. He won't be getting more money than Hart or surely we'd have kept Hart? Who himself left for more cash because we offered him peanuts. Yes; he will be getting more money than Hart. As you stated, Hart was one of the lowest paid members of the first-team squad. Maybury is reputed to have been offered roughly three times as much money as Hart was earlier this year. Put yourself in his shoes. You're a young lad who is trying to make as much money as you can over a short period of time. You've no ties to family or emotional tie to any club. Why would you pick Aberdeen over anyone else? Because they might win something 15 years after they last lifted some silverware? I've already answered that question above, and if you needed to ask it again, then you've misunderstood my point. I'm not saying that Maybury should sign for Aberdeen. What I'm saying is that Maybury is being disingenuous and that he should be honest about why he's dithering, and stop fucking around with the fans' hopes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I've already answered that question above, and if you needed to ask it again, then you've misunderstood my point. I'm not saying that Maybury should sign for Aberdeen. What I'm saying is that Maybury is being disingenuous and that he should be honest about why he's dithering, and stop fucking around with the fans' hopes. On a note about the fans hopes. I think it is apparent that players and management don't really care much about the opinion's of supporters these days. The average supporter is seen as a pain in the arse. This attitude is true of football journalists as well, I know this through a friend who writes independently for a number of the Scottish papers. In days gone by the football club would be closer to the local community and players used to revel in the hero worship heaped upon them. Now that money is king this attitude seems to be disappearing amongst even a club the size of Aberdeen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Tradesman Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Is that so? Name me one other cub in the UK which blew not one but two semi-finals this year when they had a realistic chance of going all the way. My statement wasn't as hemmed in as 'two semi-finals' but the likes of Dundee United are probably feeling the same way about their cup final loss and also their final game against the Huns that finished their Euro hopes. QotS will be sure they coulda, woulda, shoulda in the cup final. Etc, etc. There's no teams outwith the O.F., Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool......add name of top 2 or 3 from each league these days.......who has a realistic chance of silverware. The other 9 teams in our league have as much chance as any of picking some up because the Dons just aren't bridging that gap yet either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Connors Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Sheesh an awful lot of strong opinions about a player who hasn't exactly made us much better. If we can all forget about his previous reputation at Hearts and take his performances for Aberdeen in isolation I'm not so sure that he deserves any of this adulation/anger etc. The Alan Maybury of Hearts I'd roll out the red carpet for. The Alan Maybury of Aberdeen is a player you'll get ten a penny of and I'd chuck him out with the other rubbish. In other words, let him go his own way and make up his own mind, he hasn't been good enough in a red shirt to deserve to be idolised nor castigated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Maybury has been an excellent addition our defence has looked much steadier with him in it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 I agree with Jimmy Conners. Maybury is a steady defender. Calderwood seems to be in the market for steady players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest waz007 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 I’d have said get him signed after a couple of game at all costs but after the way he and most of the players got ripped against QOS then only sign him on the terms AFC would give any standard 1st team squad player. He’s never performed as a back bone player for us like diamond (1st half of the season), miller, Nicolson last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgowdon Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 If we sign this Dixon lad from Dundee who I believe is a left back then stick Foster at right back. Maybury is not bad but seems to lose his man a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest waz007 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Agreed 100% Supposedly it's a done deal and all of the money from the friendly is Dundee's as a sweetener + a few grand since he's still only 20/21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Agreed 100% Supposedly it's a done deal and all of the money from the friendly is Dundee's as a sweetener + a few grand since he's still only 20/21 Pretty happy if thats true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Maybury heading for Dons exit door Reds losing patience with Irish defender By Andrew Moir Published: 07/07/2008 ABERDEEN are preparing for life next season without Irish international defender Alan Maybury. The Dons have been hit by a wall of silence throughout the close season in their efforts to convince the right back to sign on again. And Pittodrie chief Willie Miller today revealed he has given up hope of persuading Maybury to stay, with the former Hearts man now expected to pursue his career in England. “We have basically forgotten about the idea of keeping Alan,†said Miller. “He knows what the offer is but hasn’t accepted it so far so we’re now pressing ahead with other targets. “If all the slots in the squad are filled then he turns round and says he wants to stay then it will be too late. “We have to get our plans in place for the new season and both Jimmy Calderwood and I believe he won't be with us. “He did well for us last season but we can't hang on forever in the hope of him staying so we're moving on.†Maybury joined on loan from Leicester City in January and impressed after winning a place in Calderwood’s defence. But his contract runs with the Foxes until the end of the month and has so far refused to give any indication of whether he wants to commit to an Aberdeen contract. Several English clubs are reportedly in the frame for the Republic of Ireland cap who kicked off his career at Leeds United. One player who could take his place in Calderwood's squad is Tim Bakens. The Dons boss has held talks with the Dutchman's agent and is believed to have offered the towering defender a deal. It looks as if Bakens will join fellow new Mark Kerr at the Dons this week. Kerr will be officially paraded at Pittodrie this week as long as he passes a club medical. And with Karim Touzani now back home in Holland after signing for Sparta Rotterdam there could be further scope for more new signings. Miller added: “Jimmy has been dealing with the Bakens situation and it's not yet clear what he wants to do with the money we would have been spending on Touzani's wages. “But that could be used to bring another player in and we'll certainly be active in the transfer market over the next few weeks. “We have specific targets we want to bring in and will continue to work towards securing them. “There is still a lot of hard work ahead but we’re pleased with the progress we have made.†Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
??? Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Let the moaning begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Let the moaning begin. Hardly surprising is it? He's been offered more money by other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
??? Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Hardly surprising is it? Exactly, but some will still blame JC, Miller, Mackie or Young... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Of course, he should have been asked to sign after his first few games when he was immense, no sense leaving it till every scout worth their money has seen him play and knows his contract was going to be up. Bit stupid leaving it so long if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrant Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Of course, he should have been asked to sign after his first few games when he was immense, no sense leaving it till every scout worth their money has seen him play and knows his contract was going to be up. Bit stupid leaving it so long if you ask me. I dont believe that would have made a difference. His agent would have told him to hold off and see what other interest he could attract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 It wouldnt have hurt to have put in an offer - you never know what might have happened! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc_don Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Oh well, I'm sure they've known this for a while and haven't been hanging on until now. Hopefully the Bakens transfer will be completed this week. As for Touzani's wages, they better use them for another player, because we have a puny squad for a team that has aspirations to be challenging at the right end of the table and on the cup front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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